[AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff

Sun Mar 1 17:37:13 PST 2015

Hi John, 
	Take a look at http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143333&page=2  (near the bottom and posted by green 416) and you can see the sawdust on both sides of the log I worked on for the past 4 days. 
	Dave

On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:59 PM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:

> Didn't realize that about a drag saw!
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Dave Rotigel
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 6:56 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
> 
> Both the crosscut and  the drag saw cut in both directions. The 
> configuration of the rakers change (direction) in the middle of the blade on 
> both kinds of saws.
> Dave
> 
> On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:53 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
> 
>> Do crosscut saws cut in both directions? I would imagine drag saws only 
>> cut
>> in one and operate similar to a power hacksaw.
>> 
>> Bring some sunshine back with you and drop it off in NC when you pass
>> through. We've had this white stuff on the ground for over 10 days and are
>> having freezing rain this morning. Normal for us is to have 8" of snow 
>> that
>> completely disappears in 3 days.
>> 
>> John Hall
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Dave Rotigel
>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:07 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
>> 
>> Yes, I do sharpen the blades myself. The BEST information I've come across
>> is at http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm I think that is the 
>> link
>> I posted to the list some time ago. About 98.68419% of the information 
>> there
>> transfers directly from sharpening a crosscut saw to a drag saw blade. 
>> That
>> series of videos (and now a fair amt. of trial and error) and I'm able to 
>> do
>> an OK job on the drag saw blades. Typically it takes me about 3 hours to
>> sharpen a blade that has been used and poorly "sharpened" over the years.
>> I'm able to resharpen one that I've done , and then used for s show, in 
>> less
>> than an hour. In either case, it's something I really enjoy, so the time
>> spent becomes not much of an issue.
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 8:30 PM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>> 
>>> So have you learned to sharpen them yourself? I guess its pretty much the
>>> same as a crosscut saw. I believe you shared a link on how to sharpen 
>>> them
>>> once.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Dave Rotigel
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 6:49 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> I was up to about 23 minutes on each saw cut today! The blade is getting
>>> real dull, but I was too lazy to put another blade on. Don't think I'll
>>> cut
>>> at all tomorrow--just pack up and leave. Thus, one sharp blade got me
>>> through about 10 feet of log at about 2" per cut. I can live with that
>>> given
>>> how darn hard that live oak is!
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:02 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I also observed many folks had a much more keen interest in watching 
>>>> saws
>>>> run compared to other equipment we were demonstrating.  Some because 
>>>> they
>>>> were just so darn loud, but most because sawing wood was something they
>>>> could relate to. About even in interest was running a stationary baler,
>>>> there's tons of non-farm guys that helped load hay at some point in time
>>>> and
>>>> can therefore relate.
>>>> Threshers, silage cutters, grist mills, corn shredders---the pool of
>>>> interested folks grows much smaller. Partly because they have NO idea
>>>> what
>>>> they are looking at and still don't even when you try to explain it. The
>>>> other reason, there just aren't many folks alive that ever saw this 
>>>> stuff
>>>> used when it was new. At 84 years old, my dad never helped run a 
>>>> thresher
>>>> until he was about 65. He saw a few folks do it when he was young. His
>>>> dad
>>>> replaced a wooden hand fed Geiser thresherwith a Massey pull type 
>>>> combine
>>>> right around the start of WWII.
>>>> 
>>>> I will say it is easy to spot a good Southern cook, she's the lady who
>>>> inspects the final product coming out of a grist mill and gives you her
>>>> $.02
>>>> as to the quality of the grits or corn meal you are grinding.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>> From: Dave Rotigel
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 9:14 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
>>>> 
>>>> Hi John,
>>>> The 16' live oak log was about 24 inches at the butt when I started on
>>>> Wed.
>>>> I'm down to about 7' now and my guess on the dia. now is about 20". That
>>>> live oak is the hardest "stuff" I've ever cut. It takes about 18 minutes
>>>> to
>>>> make one cut. I go through a poplar log of that size in about 7 minutes
>>>> at
>>>> home in PA. On the other hand, 18 minutes is about the time it takes to
>>>> down
>>>> a 16 oz Old Mil, so it's not all bad!
>>>> Dave
>>>> PS, Like you, I find that everything I cut is hauled away. (Tables,
>>>> Clocks,
>>>> Cutting Boards or whatever.) I had one woman ask me if I could speed up
>>>> the
>>>> saw because she didn't have the time to wait around. I smiled and asked
>>>> her
>>>> if she would like a cup of coffee. I think she must have been from
>>>> Naples!
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:34 PM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Running your drag saw I assume? How big of a log were you cutting? 
>>>>> Years
>>>>> ago
>>>>> when my dad was able, we used to demonstrate our 2 man chainsaws. A 
>>>>> nice
>>>>> 24-30" Poplar log made for one heck of a display. A lot of folks wanted
>>>>> those cuts for crafts. One fellow in particular was going to make 
>>>>> clocks
>>>>> out
>>>>> of them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John Hall
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>>> From: Dave Rotigel
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:59 PM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been at the Zolfo show (FL) for three days now cutting up a 18'
>>>>> log
>>>>> into 2" pieces. Lots of sawdust there for anyone who wants to use it 
>>>>> for
>>>>> "oil dry"!
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> PS, GREAT Show and ONLY a little rain!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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