[AT] New Holland TS110 saga continues.

Sun Jul 19 11:36:45 PDT 2015

This reminds me so much of my issues with a John Deere 2010. Parts were 
almost always "unavailable" through regular sources. Cecil keep the faith!

David
NW NC

On 7/19/2015 7:01 AM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
> I started assembling the head this morning as it was 103 yesterday and
> did not get to 95 until about 11 pm.    The humidity is running at
> 60-65% due to the wet last 2 months.   The weather man titled the heat
> index map as LUDICROUS Tomorrow the heat index is as high as 112deg..
> I found the new valve keepers would not fit the new valves.  The new NH
> keepers had 3 round beads to hold the valve.  The replacement valves
> were from Sparex, an English Company and they had a single groove.  The
> old head also had 4 valves with single grooves and 4 with 3 grooves.   I
> looked up the size on the SBInternational catalog and crossed the
> numbers to a Sealed Power/Federal Mogul number and then called Oreilly's
> here in OKC.  Their warehouse had 32 of them.  I could wait 4 hours or
> make an hour trip and get them.  I decided to pick them up myself at the
> warehouse.  NAPA did not have any in the state.  Made the trip to the
> local store and paid then made the trip to the warehouse and return.
> Install valves. Then notice that the freeze plug at the end of the head
> where it is covered up by a firewall Plate was missing.  1 3/4 inch
> diameter cup type.  Local Oreilly's store had it and the bolts I just
> found out I needed.  The new head had 7/16 NC bolt holes in the back of
> the head for holding the firewall plate.   Old head had metric.   Both
> heads had same numbers.!!!   Another 30 - 45 minute trip depending on
> counter personnel and traffic.  Sure enough it was a 45 minute trip.
> Returned at 1pm.  Temp was 102deg.  South wind blowing at 15-20 w/65%
> humidity.  I decided that it could be done later tonight..  Even if I
> have to hang lights and spray for bugs...  Temp drops to 85 after 11pm
> here.....
> So, another day wasted on this thing.......   Hopefully this thing will
> get buckled up tomorrow.   I have got to spray the shade trees I am
> working under asap as the Bagworms are working 24/7 on them in this
> heat.....
>
> It just never ends.
>
> Cecil in OKla On 7/17/2015 5:53 PM, Mike wrote:
>> Cecil, every time I read your stories, and I do enjoy the detail, it
>> makes the problems I'm having that day seem so small. You are one hard
>> working guy.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On 7/17/2015 5:20 PM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>>> Robert:
>>> I had already ordered it before I read your comment so no big deal.
>>> The next morning after I called and ordered it, the same head was $500
>>> on the web site instead of $200.  I got an email from one of their staff
>>> saying they located one for $500.  I called and verified that they had
>>> shipped my head and total cost was $282 including shipping.  When it
>>> came, I tried to find someone here local that could help me replace the
>>> guides.  I hit a dead end everywhere I called.  A engine parts supplier
>>> I bought parts from 25 years ago still had one employee who remembered
>>> me and would let me buy parts from them.  There are 2 others in OKC and
>>> they want a Pedigree and Credit report and shop pictures before they
>>> will let me buy from them.  This guy recommended an oil patch engine
>>> machine shop about 20 minutes away.  When I arrived they were loading a
>>> block in a pickup from a V-12 engine that was hanging over the
>>> tailgate!!  They had some heads on a pallet that were nearly 6ft long.
>>> I knew that these guys were qualified. Funny thing, they only had 5 guys
>>> n the shop.  I think my head was like a vacation for them as the valve
>>> specialist really took an interest in it, and he was impressed that I
>>> had all the machining information that he would need.  When I told him
>>> about the crank grinder I have in a shed, he was a new friend!!  The
>>> seat work looks very impressive.  I have to get this tractor going and I
>>> did not have time to send it back, and worry with finding another
>>> head... In the meantime, a pet calf that we raised on a bottle knocked
>>> over a heavy piece of iron near where we were working and broke the
>>> glass sediment bowl on the engine.  Last time we had to buy one it was
>>> $50.  It is one of those stupid designs that should never be put on
>>> agricultural equipment.  I found that the popular short cartridge filter
>>> will work with the aluminum sediment bowl from the earlier filters.  I
>>> got  a new filter and the bowl from the dealer for $39..  Hopefully it
>>> is not too long to fit above the injection pump.  It just never ends
>>> with this tractor...  I told some of the earlier stories about this on
>>> Tractorbynet and got a really snide response from a guy in New York who
>>> seems to be a technician.  He told me I should not expect so much, that
>>> this equipment breaks down and just suck it up...      Well, I now have
>>> nearly $50,000 worth of sucking in a tractor now worth about
>>> $25,000.........     Similar to the drug forfeiture f150 worth about
>>> $5000 that I have nearly $10,000 in..  Thanks to some nice but
>>> unqualified service technicians........       That truck is the reason I
>>> tried so hard to find someone to show me how to replace the seats.
>>>
>>> Cecil in oKla
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/17/2015 3:38 PM, Robert wrote:
>>>> Cecil
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear about your issues with the head from Wengers.  I've bought stuff from them and always found it was as represented and good parts!  I feel a little guilty as I was one of the people that said you wouldn't be disappointed
>>>>
>>>> Have you contacted them to discuss the condition??  Just wondering what they had to say?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Cecil R Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Received the head from Wenger's for the TS110 late Friday.  Waited until
>>>>> Sat morning to look at it.   Good thing.  It was noted that it Mag
>>>>> tested OK, but it was a magna-fluxed boat anchor.  It appeared it had
>>>>> water in it  for a long long time and they just bead blasted it.  The
>>>>> combustion chamber was pitted and the valve seats were beyond repair.  I
>>>>> looked at my old head again and found that the guide area was cracked on
>>>>> the cylinder that broke the valve.  Also found that the head had been
>>>>> worked on before, it had some different valves and had some chunks out
>>>>> of the head near the valves on another cylinder.  This is the tractor
>>>>> that i bought showing 1200 hours and now has 2000 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> I found a good machine shop that does oil patch diesel engines and
>>>>> yesterday morning dropped the head off with all the seat information.
>>>>> I have a valve seat installing machine but have never used it, I did not
>>>>> feel like learning on this head.   I picked the head up after lunch
>>>>> today ( yeah fast service was my thoughts) and for only another $410  it
>>>>> was ready for the all new valves springs rotators and keepers.
>>>>> Hopefully If I can last through the heat ( 110 heat index here today )
>>>>> I will have it running by Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you ever order a part such as a head or block from a company, have
>>>>> them send some high def pictures before you commit to buying............
>>>>>
>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>>
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