[AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel

Thomas Mehrkam tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jul 28 06:50:09 PDT 2015 

I have some friends who had no problems with the 6.0.
Three engines three years in a row sounds like a Dealer problem.
There were a couple of issues on the 6.0.  After they were fixed it was an OK engine.
I never pulled the trigger on a Diesel.  I ended up with a 6.8L V10.  Used it was half the cost as the Diesel.  I Saved at least 15,000 on it.  It is a 2001 and I am still driving it.  
Do a fair amount of towing.  I have crossed the Rockies over eight times pulling 7000 lbs. I have been over 13,000 ft solo.  It has been in the shop one time.  I let them replace the fuel pump because I did not have time.  Other than that an AC clutch and power steering pump is it for repairs.
Maintenance is plugs twice. Brakes once. One U joint and a rear oil seal.  I have 225,000 miles on it and still going.
      From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
 To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel
   
Dead VP, 
    I LOVED both of my 7.3's! Each had well over 150,000 miles on then when I finally sold them. Only trouble was one transmission several glo plugs and one injector. I didn,t want a 6.0 F250, but having said that it's been no troubleexcept for those injector--and the REV X sure seemed to fix that! 
    Dave
PS, The fan problem on that 6.0 you mention sure wasn't the engine. A replacement engine would not come with a fan. Someone along the way forgot to replace something properly!

On Jul 28, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Dean VP wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> I have a friend in CA who went through a 2003 Ford 6.0L which was replaced by Ford for a 2004 6.0L
> which was replaced by Ford with a 2005 6.0L and that one he didn't even make it out of the dealer's
> lot before the fan went through the radiator.  He traded it in on a Chevrolet Duramax and hasn't
> looked back.  I own a 2003 7.3 Liter Ford Diesel engine in my truck and it has been trouble free for
> 160,000 miles. The Ford 6.4L wasn't all that much better but the Ford 6.7 L Diesel engine seems to the
> best of the bunch so far other than the 7.3L. Consider yourself lucky if your 6.0 hasn't had major
> problems.
> 
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA 98290
> 
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
> virtue is the equal sharing of misery."  . Sir Winston Churchill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Dave Rotigel
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 7:00 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel
> 
> I had problems with my 2005 F250 6.0. The cross valves(?) in the injectors were sticking and it
> started hard and idled poorly when cold (ie under 40 degrees). After getting the price for 8 new
> injectors I tried Rev X added to the oil. After adding it the problem went away--did Rev X solve it?
> I'm not sure, but I add two bottles each oil change! (The only oil that I have ever used in the engine
> is Rotella!)
>     Dave
> 
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Thomas Mehrkam wrote:
> 
>> I know there was a problem with the Ford Power strokes. If you used the wrong oil the fuel injection
> would not work.  The oil is used as a hydraulic  oil to activate the fuel injectors.
>> My uncle tried to use the same oil he used in his Massy Tractors which had mechanical fuel injection
> and it cost him a bunch of money.
>> I would be very careful using any oil that did not meed the Chrysler specification.  
>> 
>> A couple of oils that meet the specs.  There may be other specs that need to be met also.  See your
> owners manual or look at a bottle for the proper Chrysler oil for the specs used in that.  There are
> two one oil made by Pensoil and another Mobil 1.  See links below
>> 
>> Hopefully one or the other is available at Walmart.
>> 
>> 
>> Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 5w30 1 Quart (507.00 229.51 MS-11106), IDParts.com
>> 
>> |  |
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>> | Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 5w30 1 Quart (507.00 229.51 M... |
>> |  |
>> | View on www.idparts.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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>> 
>> 
>> Mobil 1T ESP Formula 5W-30
>> 
>> |  |
>> |  |  |  |  |  |
>> | Mobil 1T ESP Formula 5W-30Mobil 1T ESP Formula 5W-30 is an advanced performance synthetic engine
> oil designed to help provide exceptional cleaning power, wear protection and overall performance. |
>> |  |
>> | View on www.mobil.com | Preview by Yahoo |
>> |  |
>> |  |
>> 
>> 
>>    From: Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> 
>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel
>> 
>> Mike - with modern diesels, you have to be very careful to use only the
>> oils that meet the specific requirements of the engine manufacturer.  I
>> don't know the details on the Ram EcoDiesel, but I can tell you the whole
>> story from the VW TDI perspective (and note that the Ram has a European
>> engine, so I am drawing at least some loose parallels here).
>> 
>> In the case of VW TDI, it is imperative to use only oils that meet VW spec
>> 507.00.  What this boils down to is a high quality full-synthetic oil with
>> extremely low ash-forming qualities.  You need the high quality synth base
>> stock to survive 10,000 mile drain intervals in a highly stressed
>> turbocharged application.  And, you need the extreme low-ash qualities so
>> you don't plug up the DPF (diesel particulate filter).
>> 
>> Rotella T-6 does not meet the Chrysler specification for the Ram EcoDiesel
>> (which according to Google is Chrysler MS-11106)
>> 
>> 
>> SO
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I would think it would be hard to beat Rotella T6 Synthetic, and it's
>>> only about $5 a quart.
>>> 
>>> Mike M
>>> 
>>> On 7/26/2015 10:31 PM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>>>> Mike,
>>>> 
>>>> Feel lucky. The new oil and filters for my Ram ECO-Diesel are not yet
>>> available at most parts houses. One place listed oil at about $13 per quart
>>> (10 qt required), but filter was not available. Therefore dealer charges
>>> $198 for oil and filter change every 10,000 miles.
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 26, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, so a few months back I bought a Mahindra 4035 to replace an aging
>>>>> Massey 255. So far I love it; it sips fuel, and best of all, I'm not
>>>>> working on it all the time. The OEM recommends changing the original oil
>>>>> at 50 hours, then every 200 after that. So I called the dealer I bought
>>>>> the tractor from to see if they had a filter in stock, they did, for the
>>>>> bargain price of $27!!!!!!!!!! I mean come on, it looks like a regular
>>>>> filter nothing special. I can't believe Mahindra designed their own
>>>>> filter when there are thousands of ones already in production. Evil
>>>>> Dave, have you had any similar issues with your new Kubota? Any thoughts
>>>>> on how to cross this filter? I've tried to cross the OEM number with
>>>>> Wix, Baldwin, Donaldson, NAPA, all with no success.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mike M
>>>>> 
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