[AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel

Dean VP deanvp at att.net
Tue Jul 28 10:38:21 PDT 2015


Dave,

 I understand that the fan isn't the engine but He had his fill of problems for three years and the
fan issue was just the last straw.  I think I would have thrown in the towel even before that.  I
think part of the issue as to why he was having more problems than usual he was pulling a long and
heavy Alfa 5th wheel.   Just put a heavier load on his truck than many others although he was within
the GVWR of the truck. I pull a 14,000lb 5th wheel with my 2003 Ford 7.3L and that works it pretty
good but it has made nine 3200 mile round trips to AZ pulling the 5th wheel and hasn't given up yet.
Trying to sell the 5th wheel before it does. 

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA 98290

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery."  . Sir Winston Churchill

-----Original Message-----
From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Dave Rotigel
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 2:48 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel

Dead VP, 
	I LOVED both of my 7.3's! Each had well over 150,000 miles on then when I finally sold them.
Only trouble was one transmission several glo plugs and one injector. I didn,t want a 6.0 F250, but
having said that it's been no troubleexcept for those injector--and the REV X sure seemed to fix that!

	Dave
PS, The fan problem on that 6.0 you mention sure wasn't the engine. A replacement engine would not
come with a fan. Someone along the way forgot to replace something properly!

On Jul 28, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Dean VP wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> I have a friend in CA who went through a 2003 Ford 6.0L which was replaced by Ford for a 2004 6.0L
> which was replaced by Ford with a 2005 6.0L and that one he didn't even make it out of the dealer's
> lot before the fan went through the radiator.  He traded it in on a Chevrolet Duramax and hasn't
> looked back.  I own a 2003 7.3 Liter Ford Diesel engine in my truck and it has been trouble free for
> 160,000 miles. The Ford 6.4L wasn't all that much better but the Ford 6.7 L Diesel engine seems to
the
> best of the bunch so far other than the 7.3L. Consider yourself lucky if your 6.0 hasn't had major
> problems.
> 
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA 98290
> 
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
> virtue is the equal sharing of misery."  . Sir Winston Churchill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
Of
> Dave Rotigel
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 7:00 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel
> 
> I had problems with my 2005 F250 6.0. The cross valves(?) in the injectors were sticking and it
> started hard and idled poorly when cold (ie under 40 degrees). After getting the price for 8 new
> injectors I tried Rev X added to the oil. After adding it the problem went away--did Rev X solve it?
> I'm not sure, but I add two bottles each oil change! (The only oil that I have ever used in the
engine
> is Rotella!)
> 	Dave
> 
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Thomas Mehrkam wrote:
> 
>> I know there was a problem with the Ford Power strokes. If you used the wrong oil the fuel
injection
> would not work.  The oil is used as a hydraulic  oil to activate the fuel injectors.
>> My uncle tried to use the same oil he used in his Massy Tractors which had mechanical fuel
injection
> and it cost him a bunch of money.
>> I would be very careful using any oil that did not meed the Chrysler specification.   
>> 
>> A couple of oils that meet the specs.  There may be other specs that need to be met also.  See your
> owners manual or look at a bottle for the proper Chrysler oil for the specs used in that.  There are
> two one oil made by Pensoil and another Mobil 1.  See links below
>> 
>> Hopefully one or the other is available at Walmart.
>> 
>> 
>> Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 5w30 1 Quart (507.00 229.51 MS-11106), IDParts.com
>> 
>> |   |
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>> | Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 5w30 1 Quart (507.00 229.51 M... |
>> |  |
>> | View on www.idparts.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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>> |   |
>> 
>> 
>> Mobil 1T ESP Formula 5W-30
>> 
>> |   |
>> |   |   |   |   |   |
>> | Mobil 1T ESP Formula 5W-30Mobil 1T ESP Formula 5W-30 is an advanced performance synthetic engine
> oil designed to help provide exceptional cleaning power, wear protection and overall performance. |
>> |  |
>> | View on www.mobil.com | Preview by Yahoo |
>> |  |
>> |   |
>> 
>> 
>>    From: Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> 
>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel
>> 
>> Mike - with modern diesels, you have to be very careful to use only the
>> oils that meet the specific requirements of the engine manufacturer.  I
>> don't know the details on the Ram EcoDiesel, but I can tell you the whole
>> story from the VW TDI perspective (and note that the Ram has a European
>> engine, so I am drawing at least some loose parallels here).
>> 
>> In the case of VW TDI, it is imperative to use only oils that meet VW spec
>> 507.00.  What this boils down to is a high quality full-synthetic oil with
>> extremely low ash-forming qualities.  You need the high quality synth base
>> stock to survive 10,000 mile drain intervals in a highly stressed
>> turbocharged application.  And, you need the extreme low-ash qualities so
>> you don't plug up the DPF (diesel particulate filter).
>> 
>> Rotella T-6 does not meet the Chrysler specification for the Ram EcoDiesel
>> (which according to Google is Chrysler MS-11106)
>> 
>> 
>> SO
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I would think it would be hard to beat Rotella T6 Synthetic, and it's
>>> only about $5 a quart.
>>> 
>>> Mike M
>>> 
>>> On 7/26/2015 10:31 PM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>>>> Mike,
>>>> 
>>>> Feel lucky. The new oil and filters for my Ram ECO-Diesel are not yet
>>> available at most parts houses. One place listed oil at about $13 per quart
>>> (10 qt required), but filter was not available. Therefore dealer charges
>>> $198 for oil and filter change every 10,000 miles.
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 26, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, so a few months back I bought a Mahindra 4035 to replace an aging
>>>>> Massey 255. So far I love it; it sips fuel, and best of all, I'm not
>>>>> working on it all the time. The OEM recommends changing the original oil
>>>>> at 50 hours, then every 200 after that. So I called the dealer I bought
>>>>> the tractor from to see if they had a filter in stock, they did, for the
>>>>> bargain price of $27!!!!!!!!!! I mean come on, it looks like a regular
>>>>> filter nothing special. I can't believe Mahindra designed their own
>>>>> filter when there are thousands of ones already in production. Evil
>>>>> Dave, have you had any similar issues with your new Kubota? Any thoughts
>>>>> on how to cross this filter? I've tried to cross the OEM number with
>>>>> Wix, Baldwin, Donaldson, NAPA, all with no success.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mike M
>>>>> 
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