[AT] Gas Can Rant

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Wed Jul 22 07:08:24 PDT 2015


Probably a combination of the two Steve,  EPA drumming on
the managers and the managers trying to make it go away as
Dennis described.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Steve Offiler
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:24 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Gas Can Rant

Yes.  It is the EPA, not some managers as Dennis guessed.   The rest of his 
comments are dead on the money.

SO

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> On Jul 22, 2015, at 5:55 AM, "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Dennis, the fact that all of the blow molded plastic tank makers seem to 
> be
> doing the same thing
> leads me to believe that the problem is more insidious and most like due 
> to
> an EPA regulation or
> some other bureaucratic action.  If that is not it I'd be inclined to 
> blame
> the trial lawyers next.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Dennis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 1:10 AM
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: [AT] Gas Can Rant
>
> I am almost 100% positive that the problem was managers defining the task 
> in
> some stupid way to the engineers designing it. I am sure that the task was
> to find a way to limit fuming while the can was setting, and make it
> automatic where humans did not have to do anything to it. I am equally 
> sure
> that ease of normal use of the can was NOT part of the requirements. If
> there was any use requirement it was to some fixed opening that did not 
> move
> like a weed eater fuel tank. May have been given some city dweller that
> never used a weed eater, or filled a mower fuel tank.
> The engineers would be given bonuses if they strictly followed the stupid
> written tasks, and would loose the bonus and be rated low performers if 
> they
> thought "outside of the box". What would you do??
> I have seen this in industry many times to some lesser extent. (42 + years
> as engineer) Trying to go back and reassess or re-define the problem
> normally gets lost in time constraints or deadlines. Some companies are
> starting to allow problem reassessment, but it is a painful process. 
> Adding
> politicians and bureaucrats to the mix just makes things worse.
>
> Dennis
>
>
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