[AT] Cold weather starting

Wed Jan 7 19:37:02 PST 2015

The grounds are waaaaaaay too cold tonight...
These days sometimes I even have trouble getting my recliner to start.
I have become very fond of float chargers. The truck we use as a daily
driver is sitting in the shop near a propane torpedo heater "just in case".
The tractors will mostly just be sitting waiting for spring. Several years
ago I walled off a 24' x 40' room in the basement and moved my woodshop
there so at least I have a warm place to putter in the winter. I don't
accomplish much but that isn't the goal anyway.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:

> Right now, Charlie, I'm sure that Farmer would simply say that the grounds
> are COLD!
>         Dave
>
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:31 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>
> > John, now that Farmer is back with us he's going
> > to tell you to check the grounds!
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 6:19 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Cold weather starting
> >
> > I'm still dealing with a Deere 12/24 system. A lot of folks on here have
> > given me input over the years on maintaining or modifying it. Somehow I
> just
> > never have time to do anything about updating it! We park it near a
> charger
> > and block heater as well as have some starting fluid nearby. If I used it
> > more often, I'm sure it would work its way up the priority list!
> >
> > John Hall
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cecil R Bearden
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 3:13 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Cold weather starting
> >
> > Ralph:
> > It started this morning with no ether.  It had set outside with a little
> > wind protection, but it was 22deg with a 30 mph wind!!   It had to crank
> > about 15 seconds to really get it going.   I had a Massey Ferguson 85
> > with the continental diesel.  There was no way that it would start in
> > cold weather without pulling it.  I also have one of those 4010 John
> > Deere's that had the 12/24 starting system.  The problem with them was
> > the generator had a 12v+ and  a 12v- post.  one battery was hooked
> > positive ground and the other negative.  I fought that system for 5
> > years until one cold winter day, i bought a 12V starter at NAPA and
> > built a 1 wire alternator for it.  With 2 Group 31 batteries mounted on
> > the loader frame under the cab, It wold start in the coldest weather.
> > Those special John Deere narrow batteries were too small to ever start a
> > diesel in cold weather...  I really like the 12/24 system on the
> > Belarus.  I have had no problems with it as long as I have good
> > batteries in it....
> >
> > Cecil in OKla
> >
> >
> > On 1/7/2015 8:46 AM, Ralph Goff wrote:
> >> On 1/7/2015 6:39 AM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
> >>>    I am down to the Belarus 822 for my utility tractor.  It refused
> >>> to start without pulling  3 times last week
> >>>
> >>> I need to feed some hay again this morning and the wind chill is below
> >>> zero, so I guess will see if that problem is solved.  Next chore is to
> >>> replace the trackhoe bucket hose that is 9 ft in the air...  With this
> >>> wind, that is going to be a really cold job...  I know it is not as
> cold
> >>> as Ralph has to endure, but for OKla, this is cold.  they are closing
> >>> some schools because of the wind chill..........
> >>>
> >>> Cecil in OKla
> >> Hi Cecil
> >> Just be thankful you don't have the -30 wind chills we have here this
> >> week. Have to say I am a little surprised
> >> your Belarus won't start. My old Massey never fails to fire up on a
> >> couple of turns of the starter every morning.
> >> Even the single 12 volt battery is enough providing I've had it plugged
> >> in for at least an hour. The oil was a little stiff
> >> and the hydraulics slow but it gets the job done so far.
> >> But then I have never heard anything good about the 24 volt starting
> >> systems either. Seems to me most of the
> >> John Deeres that came with that system were converted to 12 as an
> >> improvement.
> >> This Massey was originally 2 six volt batteries in series but I have
> >> never used anything other than a single twelve volt.
> >>
> >> Ralph in Sask.
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Nothing will teach you patience like a horse. Rule #1, the horse is rarely
wrong...
If you want to get inside of a horse's head love is the key, not anger or
impatience and never revenge. Pet it, groom it, feed it, water it; and only
then ask it to work with you as a friend.

Francis Robinson
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Central Indiana USA
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