[AT] Allis WD / WC cultivator fit question

[Indiana Robinson]

Thanks guys.
Here is the link where I found a reference to parts existing to convert the
WD cultivators to a WC.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allis-Chalmers-WD-Cultivator-with-WC-conversion-group-Operators-and-Parts-manual-/380376641940
As I understand it my neighbor wants to sell his WD / WD-45 cultivators to
a fellow that wants them "if" he can put them on his 1939 WC. He had been
trying to find out about them but wasn't having much luck.
I don't know if the possible buyer has a power-lift on his WC or not but
they are pretty common around here. I have a complete WC chassis that has
one on it but I don't really want to sell it off of it right now (I still
have visions/dreams of making it a running tractor or using it to complete
one I might find cheap with problems).
Apparently Allis made the newer WD cultivators with some backward
compatibility in mind. Now whether it is logical or affordable is another
matter.  :-)
We are not talking about a high dollar transaction here.  :-)  He lost
almost all of his antique tractor stuff storage (long story) and he has
been getting rid of some of his stuff. He had asked me about his unstyled
WC which is kind of a conglomerate of sorts. IHC rear wheels, Massey Harris
loader and I think one of those PTO hydraulic systems. Decent price but I'm
already about a decade ahead on old tractor budget and I haven't
accomplished anything for a decade now... Still... If I were to stumble
into some money... Ignore that last comment, I think I hear my wife
coming.  Shhhhhh...

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:26 AM, <pga2 at basicisp.net> wrote:

> Hi, Farmer! Glad to see you're still around. If you are trying to attach
> the cultivators to the front of a WC, you will need two brackets to bolt
> to the front "platform" area. As for the lift, you would need the
> mechanical
> lift that bolts to the torque tube just aft of the transmission, along with
> the appropriate arm from the lift to the cultivator. The lift has a foot
> pedal
> and rotates 1/2 turn each time you press it. This either lifts or lowers
> the
> cultivator. I have the lift and brackets for my RC, but have not been able
> to
> locate a cultivator. There used to be a fairly large A-C scrapyard in your
> part of the country, if memory serves me (not as likely as it used to be),
> that was sometimes mentioned on the A-C forum at Allischalmers.com. Someone
> there  will probably be able to help with that location.
>
> Good luck,
> Phil in TX
>
> --- brad-gunnells at uiowa.edu wrote:
>
> From: "Gunnells, Bradley R" <brad-gunnells at uiowa.edu>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Allis WD / WC cultivator fit question
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 05:19:54 +0000
>
> Farmer, it's great to hear from you!
>
> I can't answer your question with 100% accuracy but as others have
> mentioned its likely possible. I have a '45 WC (styled) and its the same
> frame dimensions as my WD-45. The lift would be the trick. I've seen photos
> of a gear assembly that mounts to the tube behind the transmission which I
> assume was for lifting a cultivator. The WD/WD-45 with hydraulics most
> likely has a much different lift setup.
>
> Brad
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 6, 2015, at 8:02 PM, "Indiana Robinson" <robinson46176 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > A friend and neighbor has a set of WD / WD-45 cultivators and he is
> wanting
> > to know if they will fit on a 1939 WC? I did find a reference on-line to
> > some adapter parts but the info was unclear. I also found a comment on a
> > forum where someone claimed that they would just fit without
> > modification??? Looking at pictures of the brackets that is hard to
> imagine.
> > I have owned WC's and a WD in the past but only had cultivators for the
> WD
> > and they were not the front mounts, they were 4 row snap-coupler rear
> > mounts. My experience doesn't do him any good on this.
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Nothing will teach you patience like a horse. Rule #1, the horse is
> rarely
> > wrong...
> > If you want to get inside of a horse's head love is the key, not anger or
> > impatience and never revenge. Pet it, groom it, feed it, water it; and
> only
> > then ask it to work with you as a friend.
> >
> > Francis Robinson
> > aka "farmer"
> > Central Indiana USA
> > robinson46176 at gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > AT mailing list
> > http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>



-- 


Nothing will teach you patience like a horse. Rule #1, the horse is rarely
wrong...
If you want to get inside of a horse's head love is the key, not anger or
impatience and never revenge. Pet it, groom it, feed it, water it; and only
then ask it to work with you as a friend.

Francis Robinson
aka "farmer"
Central Indiana USA
robinson46176 at gmail.com