[AT] Cold weather starting

[Dave Rotigel]

Right now, Charlie, I'm sure that Farmer would simply say that the grounds are COLD!
	Dave

On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:31 PM, charlie hill wrote:

> John, now that Farmer is back with us he's going
> to tell you to check the grounds!
> 
> Charlie
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 6:19 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Cold weather starting
> 
> I'm still dealing with a Deere 12/24 system. A lot of folks on here have
> given me input over the years on maintaining or modifying it. Somehow I just
> never have time to do anything about updating it! We park it near a charger
> and block heater as well as have some starting fluid nearby. If I used it
> more often, I'm sure it would work its way up the priority list!
> 
> John Hall
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Cecil R Bearden
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 3:13 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Cold weather starting
> 
> Ralph:
> It started this morning with no ether.  It had set outside with a little
> wind protection, but it was 22deg with a 30 mph wind!!   It had to crank
> about 15 seconds to really get it going.   I had a Massey Ferguson 85
> with the continental diesel.  There was no way that it would start in
> cold weather without pulling it.  I also have one of those 4010 John
> Deere's that had the 12/24 starting system.  The problem with them was
> the generator had a 12v+ and  a 12v- post.  one battery was hooked
> positive ground and the other negative.  I fought that system for 5
> years until one cold winter day, i bought a 12V starter at NAPA and
> built a 1 wire alternator for it.  With 2 Group 31 batteries mounted on
> the loader frame under the cab, It wold start in the coldest weather.
> Those special John Deere narrow batteries were too small to ever start a
> diesel in cold weather...  I really like the 12/24 system on the
> Belarus.  I have had no problems with it as long as I have good
> batteries in it....
> 
> Cecil in OKla
> 
> 
> On 1/7/2015 8:46 AM, Ralph Goff wrote:
>> On 1/7/2015 6:39 AM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>>>    I am down to the Belarus 822 for my utility tractor.  It refused
>>> to start without pulling  3 times last week
>>> 
>>> I need to feed some hay again this morning and the wind chill is below
>>> zero, so I guess will see if that problem is solved.  Next chore is to
>>> replace the trackhoe bucket hose that is 9 ft in the air...  With this
>>> wind, that is going to be a really cold job...  I know it is not as cold
>>> as Ralph has to endure, but for OKla, this is cold.  they are closing
>>> some schools because of the wind chill..........
>>> 
>>> Cecil in OKla
>> Hi Cecil
>> Just be thankful you don't have the -30 wind chills we have here this
>> week. Have to say I am a little surprised
>> your Belarus won't start. My old Massey never fails to fire up on a
>> couple of turns of the starter every morning.
>> Even the single 12 volt battery is enough providing I've had it plugged
>> in for at least an hour. The oil was a little stiff
>> and the hydraulics slow but it gets the job done so far.
>> But then I have never heard anything good about the 24 volt starting
>> systems either. Seems to me most of the
>> John Deeres that came with that system were converted to 12 as an
>> improvement.
>> This Massey was originally 2 six volt batteries in series but I have
>> never used anything other than a single twelve volt.
>> 
>> Ralph in Sask.
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