[AT] Welding Advice

Mon Feb 23 05:01:38 PST 2015

Another bad side effect was depression.  Not the clinical kind that 
everyone hears about.  It just makes you want to do nothing.  You are 
not in the mood to do anything but sit in your recliner.  And that is 
bad, especially with all the tractors that need work.
I might have mentioned it was prescribed because of a misdiagnosis. I 
had a condition I got from a tick bite called babiosis. I finally 
figured it out myself and told the doctors and they said they knew 
nothing about that and I finally got a personal friend of mine that was 
a doctor to prescribe the treatment.  After suffering with this for over 
a year, the proper medicine knocked it out in a couple of days.
On 2/22/2015 9:10 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> This is correct.  Statins do drop cholesterol, and in doing so, they also
> mess with about 25 other things your body really needs.  But the point is
> that cholesterol doesn't matter.  So dropping the cholesterol number...
> doesn't matter.  Statins are literally worthless, but do plenty of harm in
> terms of side effects.
>
> SO
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Dan Glass <dglass at numail.org> wrote:
>
>> When I took lipitor I also felt like I have been beaten with a ball peen
>> hammer.  I called the doctor and they said they never heard of that. But
>> I never hurt so much in my life.   Lipitor did make my cholesterol drop,
>> but what does that mean?  It turned out it meant nothing.  I read an
>> article about a village in Sicily where everyones cholesterol was over
>> 1000 and the average person there lived to be over 100 years old.
>> Doctors here used to say you would be dead if your cholesterol was that
>> high.   The AMA has recently published articles saying cholesterol
>> doesn't mean much.
>> On 2/22/2015 10:34 AM, Jim Thomson wrote:
>>> I have been on satins since my late 30's after my Dad died. His
>> cardiologist
>>> wanted to check me out and found my cholesterol numbers were high. I
>> went on
>>> a very strict diet, lost weight and exercised. My numbers went up
>> anyway. I
>>> went on a low does of Lipitor and my numbers went to normal. They have
>> been
>>> this way for 18 years. When switching jobs our insurance changed and the
>>> Lipitor was not covered. Tired many other satins and felt like some one
>>> worked me over with a ball peen hammer.  I went back to a generic Lipitor
>>> and all is well. I have had long discussions about the benefits vs
>> problems
>>> with satins. The benefits far out weigh the problems. The data is there
>> to
>>> support the claims. I also just found out that I have Type II diabetes
>> last
>>> March. I was not overweight, don't smoke or drink. My doctor told me
>> that it
>>> was not your lifestyle, but the combination of genetics and exposure to
>>> certain viruses that caused this. I am controlling the diabetes with diet
>>> very well. My PhD friend has found an article that has found a very
>> strong
>>> correlation with the randomness of cancer and heart disease. The summary
>> of
>>> the article stated that 2/3 of all cancer is due to random causes. If I
>> can
>>> get him to send me the link I will post it.
>>>
>>> Jim Thomson
>>> Rehoboth, MA 02769
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
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>> jtchall at nc.rr.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 8:42 AM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Welding Advice
>>>
>>> Been diabetic for 21 years. I went from no meds to insulin over night.
>> Part
>>> of the standard treatment for diabetes is blood pressure and cholesterol
>>> meds, whether you need them or not. My blood pressure runs low to start
>>> with, on meds it was dangerously low. Doc finally pulled me off of
>> them--15
>>> years ago. Now the docs all want me on cholesterol meds. Its 3 on 1--me
>> vs.
>>> my regular DR, heart DR, and endocrinologist. I'm still resisting until
>> they
>>> show me results where my cholesterol is too high, then we will talk. The
>> one
>>> thing me and the DRs agree on is I need to exercise. Being a workaholic
>>> doesn't count they tell me. Unfortunately I'm too lazy to exercise, but
>> I do
>>> agree with them I should do it. I don't smoke, drink, and am not
>> overweight.
>>> About the only thing they can fuss at me about is to  consume less
>> caffeine,
>>> exercise more, and eat more vegetables.
>>>
>>> The only recommendation I have for folks dealing with health issues is to
>>> make sure you and your DR mesh well. Between me and my dad I've
>> encountered
>>> tons of Drs. If the 2 of you aren't seeing eye to eye, find another Dr.
>>> That's
>>> not to say be bullheaded and look for one that doesn't give a flip about
>> you
>>> outside of getting paid, find one that genuinely cares about your opinion
>>> and well being. Fortunately we are in a town big enough to have tons of
>> DRs
>>> to choose from, most are affiliated with Duke Hospital.
>>>
>>> If it doesn't warm up today like the weather guys say it is supposed to,
>>> I'll get a shovel and start removing the ice skating rink in front of my
>>> garage---that should count for exercise!
>>>
>>> John Hall
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joe Hazewinkel
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:42 AM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Welding Advice
>>>
>>> OK, I'll jump on here as I am old enough to have to take a pill or two to
>>> stay alive (or so I'm told).  I'm a firm believer that genetics has more
>> to
>>> do with it than anything else.  My grandparents died in their early 60's
>> due
>>> to heart failure, they didn't smoke and weren't overweight, just bad
>>> genetics.  Fast forward 40 years, I have two brothers they are "normal",
>> I
>>> work out three days a week, don't carry any excess weight and feel
>> great, my
>>> blood work says I live the life of a sedentary obese person, and I
>> should be
>>> dead in my early 60's just like my grandparents.
>>>
>>> So it's pills for me, after going through a few, I am now on Vascepa,
>> which
>>> is a clinical strength fish oil.  Best damn thing I ever took, no side
>>> effects, and no more joint pain.  You might want to look into it.  BTW,
>> I'm
>>> only 45 and hope I can hang on for a few more years.
>>>
>>> Enjoy, Joe
>>>
>>>
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