[AT] now Heart concerns

Stephen Offiler soffiler at gmail.com
Sun Feb 22 18:04:13 PST 2015 

Mike:

YES !!!!!!!!!!


SO

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:

> My wife has really gotten into the clean eating habit. We stay
> completely away from processed foods, and foods with preservatives. We
> use real butter, no margarine; basically stuff our body can recognize
> and know how to process. If you do a bit of research, you'll find that
> sugar is one of the main causes of heart disease not fats. Cancer feeds
> off sugar as well. She pulled me off from Lipitor after researching the
> correlation between it and diabetes myelitis.
>
> Mike M
>
> On 2/22/2015 8:17 AM, Steve Offiler wrote:
> > Herb, I've had some off-list conversations with a couple of list members
> and it's fairly easy for me to reach back to the email archive (a nice
> feature of Gmail) and forward some of this to you.  With references, of
> course.  People with genuine medical credentials.  I'll get back to you
> later; I'm not near a real computer right now.
> >
> > SO
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:01 AM, "Herb Metz" <metz-h.b at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dan, I have been playing that 'high cholesterol game' since mid 1990's;
> I
> >> certainly agree with you in wondering WHO. We are the pawns. I have
> wanted
> >> to ask Stephen Offiler for more info as to his apparent difference of
> >> opinion on preventive heart care that he briefly mentioned a couple
> weeks
> >> ago.
> >> About the only thing every 'health authority' agrees on is the need to
> stay
> >> active; I can remember a conversation from late fortys when Dad and a
> cousin
> >> were discussing health care. Dad noted that doctors 'used to' tell
> recently
> >> retired people to sit back and relax and enjoy life because they had
> worked
> >> hard all their life and now should take it easy, but unfortunately those
> >> people were buried a few years later, so doctors had recently quit
> telling
> >> people that.  They are learning more every day; unfortunately every
> thing
> >> must be approved by Big Pharma and by AMA (who has huge bunch of
> lobbyists).
> >> Herb(GA)
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dan Glass
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:04 AM
> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Welding Advice
> >>
> >> Just remember to read the list of side effects before taking a
> >> cholesterol lowering drug, some of them are brutal.
> >>> On 2/12/2015 1:08 PM, Wrench50 at aol.com wrote:
> >>> The last time I was at the doctor. She said my cholesterol was a little
> >>> high and to start taking a pill to get it lower. I said Really ? It's
> >>> never
> >>> been  high before. She said Well they have changed the numbers of what
> is
> >>> acceptable  so now it's a little high.  I wonder Who is in charge of
> >>> changing
> >>> numbers?  The drug companies? Del in MI
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 2/12/2015 11:24:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >>> meulenms at gmx.com writes:
> >>>
> >>> I agree  Steve modern medicine is driven by big pharma, have a certain
> >>> problem,  here's a pill for that, underlying cause be damned.
> >>>
> >>> Mike M
> >>>
> >>>> On  2/12/2015 7:58 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> >>>> Don't listen to your doctor  for nutrition advice.  Seriously. It's
> not a
> >>>> major part of their  training.  See the following link, and note that
> >>>> this
> >>>> is not  coming from the radical fringe; it comes from the National
> >>>> Institutes  for Health.
> >>>>
> >>>>   http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   SO
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Mike Reggie  <mrreg_99 at hotmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>        Thanks Farmer, Charlie and Steve, I always enjoy looking at
> the
> >>> list
> >>>>> to see what's going on.
> >>>>>     I'm not sure  what we could fry up that would be cholesterol
> >>>>> friendly,
> >>>>> but if I  remember correctly, didn't we have a doctor on the list
> some
> >>> years
> >>>>>   ago, a surgeon if I recall, though I don't remember what kind of
> >>> surgeon???
> >>>>>      Maybe if he, like me still lurks  around, he can suggest
> something.
> >>> I'm
> >>>>> always open to suggestions,  especially  where food is involved!
> >>>>>     Now maybe  another question could be, where else could you have a
> >>>>> discussion  start about welding and lead to fried food?? And that all
> >>>>> started  with antique tractors! As I said, always something
> interesting
> >>> and
> >>>>>   informative happening  here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb  2015 09:14:47 -0500
> >>>>>> From: soffiler at gmail.com
> >>>>>>   To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Welding  Advice
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Farmer!  Told you this before...  don't worry about the damn
> >>>>>> cholesterol
> >>>>>> content of the the  food!  ;-) ;-) ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   SO
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Indiana  Robinson <
> >>>>> robinson46176 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>   wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nice post Mike R. Good to hear from  you.
> >>>>>>> Now about these welding sounds... I think we need to  find
> something
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>> fry
> >>>>>>> that is lower in  cholesterol than all of this bacon and eggs.
> >>>>>>>   :-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   --
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Francis  Robinson
> >>>>>>> aka "farmer"
> >>>>>>> Central Indiana  USA
> >>>>>>> robinson46176 at gmail.com
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