[AT] just a rant

[Mattias Kessén]

That is why I mostly stay away from forums...

Mattias

www.rodjagard.n.nu

2015-02-19 19:32 GMT+01:00 Cecil R Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>:

> Deere 4010-4020 sure was a good tractor to put a loader on..   You had a
> reverse handy in every gear range.  All the others, you had one or 2
> reverses and they were so slow you could not really use the tractor for
> loading and getting any real production...  I have an Oliver 1850 and a
> White 2-105 really the same tractor and the reverse is slow and they are
> both so hard to shift they are terrible as a loader tractor.
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
> On 2/19/2015 5:20 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
> > Only a pure fool would think his "brand" is superior across the board. My
> > dad spent 20 some years working for an IH dealer. Sold a gazillion Cub
> > Cadets. Any day of the week I'll mow a prettier lawn with and old Deere
> than
> > an old Cadet. When you do as most of the list members do (repairing and
> > restoring old iron) it should become real evident what was or wasn't a
> great
> > design. If you can't see that, you probably don't need to be turning
> > wrenches in the first place.
> >
> > For whatever reason we switched to Deere in the 60's for big HP. After
> > growing up on a pair of 4020's and a 4430, I knew what to expect from
> them.
> > Dad had a 706 or 806 at the shop working on it one day. I climbed up on
> it
> > and realized it was the most ridiculous laid out tractor concerning the
> > controls I had ever seen. Nothing was as convenient as a 4020. The flip
> side
> > of that is Deeres famous 2 cylinders--- loud, obnoxious, jerky, and not
> laid
> > out very well as opposed to IH tractors of the time. Both paint colors
> had
> > their faults, but they also managed to put in many years in the field
> which
> > to me says they are well built. We didn't have many other color tractors
> in
> > the area due to dealer support, so I can't speak regarding those.
> >
> > For the record, we collect primarily IH. We use IH and Deere.
> >
> > John Hall
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Edchainsaw at aol.com
> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:39 AM
> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Subject: [AT] just a rant
> >
> > I recently tried to correct some missinformation on the  Oliver  Facebook
> > page.    Was told several times I was  not of a  stable mind needed to
> take
> > my  Biased views elsewhere.  now am in  a Facebook war with idiots ----
> yes
> > I couldn't back down....    and  yes I being the Adult I maybe should
> have;
> > but then again I think  adults should stop KIDS from acting like this.
> >
> >
> > I dont like the name calling stuff and I especially  HATE when someone
> > tells me one brand is TOTALLY SUPERIOR---  gee they all made  mistakes.
> >
> > That's what I like about you all on here I aint caught that from any of
> > you--- now a good natured rub once in a while that's gonna happen.
> >
> > PLEASE dont let the 'idiots'  take control... Stop this kinda  stuff .
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