[AT] just a rant

[Cecil R Bearden]

Deere 4010-4020 sure was a good tractor to put a loader on..   You had a 
reverse handy in every gear range.  All the others, you had one or 2 
reverses and they were so slow you could not really use the tractor for 
loading and getting any real production...  I have an Oliver 1850 and a 
White 2-105 really the same tractor and the reverse is slow and they are 
both so hard to shift they are terrible as a loader tractor.
Cecil in OKla


On 2/19/2015 5:20 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
> Only a pure fool would think his "brand" is superior across the board. My
> dad spent 20 some years working for an IH dealer. Sold a gazillion Cub
> Cadets. Any day of the week I'll mow a prettier lawn with and old Deere than
> an old Cadet. When you do as most of the list members do (repairing and
> restoring old iron) it should become real evident what was or wasn't a great
> design. If you can't see that, you probably don't need to be turning
> wrenches in the first place.
>
> For whatever reason we switched to Deere in the 60's for big HP. After
> growing up on a pair of 4020's and a 4430, I knew what to expect from them.
> Dad had a 706 or 806 at the shop working on it one day. I climbed up on it
> and realized it was the most ridiculous laid out tractor concerning the
> controls I had ever seen. Nothing was as convenient as a 4020. The flip side
> of that is Deeres famous 2 cylinders--- loud, obnoxious, jerky, and not laid
> out very well as opposed to IH tractors of the time. Both paint colors had
> their faults, but they also managed to put in many years in the field which
> to me says they are well built. We didn't have many other color tractors in
> the area due to dealer support, so I can't speak regarding those.
>
> For the record, we collect primarily IH. We use IH and Deere.
>
> John Hall
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edchainsaw at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:39 AM
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: [AT] just a rant
>
> I recently tried to correct some missinformation on the  Oliver  Facebook
> page.    Was told several times I was  not of a  stable mind needed to take
> my  Biased views elsewhere.  now am in  a Facebook war with idiots ----  yes
> I couldn't back down....    and  yes I being the Adult I maybe should have;
> but then again I think  adults should stop KIDS from acting like this.
>
>
> I dont like the name calling stuff and I especially  HATE when someone
> tells me one brand is TOTALLY SUPERIOR---  gee they all made  mistakes.
>
> That's what I like about you all on here I aint caught that from any of
> you--- now a good natured rub once in a while that's gonna happen.
>
> PLEASE dont let the 'idiots'  take control... Stop this kinda  stuff .
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