[AT] off topic, Internet takeover by govt ?

[charlie hill]

Steve stop worrying about the few ounces of fuel I might slosh on the ground
or even intentionally pour out if it's contaminated.  Every military plane 
that
flies dumps it's fuel before it lands.  If the flight operation is shorter 
than
planned they dump a lot of fuel.


Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Stephen Offiler
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 7:23 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] off topic, Internet takeover by govt ?

Back when I started driving and wrenching on things with four wheels
instead of two, the carburetor was still king, but this was right around
the introduction of the catalytic converter and they were starting to hang
electrical gizmos on carburetors on new cars (of course, I was a kid,
driving and toying with older stuff).  I clearly remember the smell of
gasoline was pervasive around cars back then, especially those stored in
closed garages.  Every single vehicle on the road back then (about 150
million in the late 1970's) was slowly but steadily emitting vapors into
the air, constantly, 24/7.

I am firmly in the camp that says CO2 is inhaled by plants for
photosynthesis and therefore this recent classification of CO2 as a
pollutant is ridiculous.  BUT... BUT!  Unburned hydrocarbons are a
COMPLETELY different story from an environmental standpoint.  If there is
something that can be done to keep what is now today 250 million cars from
constantly emitting unburned hydrocarbon vapors 24/7, I am 100% in favor of
it.

As for the sloppy fools who dump raw gas on the ground while refueling...
yup, they exist.  Their couple ounces compared with the hundreds or even
thousands of people who did NOT slop raw gas on the ground while refueling
divides those couple ounces out into an incredibly tiny fraction overall,
and it pales deep into insignficance compared with the entire vehicle fleet
bleeding vapors into the air 24/7.

SO


On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:

> These codes are total BS, most caused by  whiffs of a little gas vapor.
> I've seen people filling their cars with fuel that slosh 1-2 oz of fuel
> on the ground putting the fuel nozzle back into the pump. How many
> whiffs of vapor is that?
>
> Mike M
>
>
> On 2/4/2015 9:57 PM, Ralph Goff wrote:
> > On 2/4/2015 3:25 PM, pga2 at basicisp.net wrote:
> >> Here in Texas we have an annual state inspection of all vehicles
> operated
> >> on public roads. It requires proof of insurance to get it done, as well
> >> as to get license plates. Starting next month, the inspection and 
> >> regis-
> >> tration stickers will be combined. In major metropolitan areas, there
> >> has been a tailpipe test in place since about 1982. Most vehicles pass
> >> this fairly easily. In the rest of the state it is basically just a
> safety
> >> inspection and a check to see that the factory emissions equipment is
> >> still in place. The check engine light must not be on in order to pass.
> >>
> >> Phil in TX
> > Then even my "new" vehicle would fail. The check light has been on for a
> > few years on my 97 Blazer yet everything works fine.
> > A code reader said (I think) it was the fuel vent or something like 
> > that.
> > My older vehicle have no such light to worry about.
> >
> > Ralph in Sask.
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