[AT] Glow plugs

Grant Brians sales at heirloom-organic.com
Mon Dec 21 14:43:44 PST 2015


Ralph, this exchange just goes to show the differences in areas. 
Possibly like Cecil Bearden in Oklahoma, I have never seen a factory 
installed block heater on a tractor (diesel or gas) or one in use. Why? 
Because they simply have never been used here in most of California. I 
know they are used up in extreme Northeastern California and in the 
Sierra Nevada mountains sometimes, but I have never seen one used. It 
makes sense to me that in a place like where you live, that use of an 
engine heater could make a lot of sense. Personally I have used gasoline 
and ether lots of times and never blown an engine. But there is a 
serious technique to doing so on an engine that needs it and is not an 
antique Caterpillar with the THICK metal.
               Grant Brians - Hollister,California farmer of vegetables, 
herbs, edible flowers, nuts and fruit
p.s. I sure have used glow plugs a lot on engines as others have noted. 
Some engines are just cold and hard to start and some are not.... This 
is seriously exacerbated by the habits of the operators.
On 12/20/2015 4:37 PM, Ralph Goff wrote:
> On 12/20/2015 5:55 PM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>> My 7030 Allis had that ether can, but the plastic line to the air intake
>> had broken and I plugged it to prevent dust in the intake.  I have found
>> that those 70's tractors and trucks will start just fine in the winter
>> with 2008 and later batteries.   Batteries are so much better in
>> cranking amps that I only have to use ether on my old 944 CAT loader or
>> when the batteries are not cranking as fast as they should.    My
>> Belarus tractors have never failed to start if I use 5W-30 oil in the
>> winter.  My TS110 New Holland has 15W-40 oil and it never refuses to s
>> tart in the winter without ether and I always forget to use the glow plugs.
>> I remember our old Massey 50 Diesel and the 65 Diesel, in the winter you
>> would run the battery down the glow plug before it would start.  You
>> also did not ether a Perkins of that vintage. Sooner or later you would
>> need a head welded.  We parked them in an old cow barn that was built on
>> a slant.  In the winter we backed them in so they could be pulled out
>> and started.  We could start the 50 by pulling it with the pickup if we
>> had about 300 lbs of cattle cub es in the back..  I had an old WD allis
>> that would start when nothing else would.  When we had snow I would
>> start the WD and pull the diesel to start it.....
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
> Cecil, you just needed a bigger block heater on those Perkins diesels. I
> run my Super 90 with the 270 Perkins diesel
> all through our Sask. winters without a problem and it has never seen
> ether since I've owned it. An hour or so
> with that 1500 watt circulating heater has the engine warm as summer. A
> turn or two of the starter (on a single
> battery) and its running smooth as summer. 10w-30 oil too. No glow plugs
> on this diesel either.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQY8GQd8p0U&feature=youtu.be
>
> Ralph in Sask.
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