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Cecil R Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Fri Dec 18 05:07:56 PST 2015


In 1964 we bought a 1963 (supposedly new) Massey Ferguson 50 diesel for 
$3600.  few years later we found that the tractor had been out on a 
years rental.

Cecil in OKla


On 12/17/2015 11:58 PM, Tyler Juranek wrote:
> Hi Farmer,
>   Thanks for sharing the story about the Super MTA. My Great
> Grandfather bought a Super MDTA in 1954. He traded the Olivers off for
> it.
>   Every farmer in the area who knew he had it always questioned why he
> needed such a big tractor! According to my grandfather, diesel was
> about $0.05 a gallon, and gas was $0.25. I'm sure he saved a bunch.
>
>   In 1963 he bought a 560 diesel, and grandpa bought an 806. With much
> luck, grandpa has found that same 806 and bought it back.
>   It's sitting in the shed now all painted up. But way deep down,
> Grandpa is still an Oliver guy from a to z.
>
>   By the way, what was a good price for a used tractor back then?
>   The 806 Grandpa bought new in 63 cost about $4300. He still has the
> original sales reciept for it.
>
>   Take Care,
>   Tyler Juranek
>   IA
>
> On 12/17/15, Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been enjoying this flurry of tractor related list activity...
>> Enjoyed Dean's Deere / IH discussion.
>> Many years ago my father bought a very good used New Idea 2 row mounted
>> picker from an old friend. He had used it on a Farmall M but he was keeping
>> the M. Since it had the M brackets we started looking for a Farmall M to
>> mount it on. Since we had been almost all Ford and Ferguson's / MF's, a
>> couple of Deere crawlers and a IHC 300 Utility we had not had any other
>> experience with IH since the McCormick 10-20 in the late 1940's.
>> We did some research and decided that we wanted a Super M instead for
>> several reasons. We figured the cost would be similar. The Super M was a
>> good bit more HP than a common M, had a bigger clutch, had an inch thicker
>> radiator and it also had the live hydraulics and the improved gear range
>> (mostly a faster 4th gear). We found a pretty nice one at an auction and
>> bought it and a New Idea loader to fit it. We took it to the field to check
>> it out doing some spring tillage. It ran well but I found it a bit
>> disappointing. Hard to steer and seemed kind of sluggish. It would lug like
>> crazy but I was used to tractors that had sensitive governors and ran at
>> about 2,100 RPM at full throttle and were snappy performers with a well
>> matched load. We had a good mechanic friend that we used to use for some
>> work if we were too busy. We had him rebuild the engine (and clutch just
>> because) with over-sized pistons and sleeves and an "improved" governor.
>> Then we rebuilt the steering before fall and added power steering. Made a
>> huge difference... Very snappy. We used it like that for a year or two then
>> decided that it would be nice to have a Super MTA for picking for the TA
>> and the independent PTO. I was watching for one and found a decent one for
>> a good price and we took it down the same path. Full over-bore rebuild,
>> governor. It already had good power steering but we rebuilt the gearbox and
>> front bolster.
>> Our original intent was to mount the picker and just leave it on but we
>> really liked those beefed up Super M's for field work too so the picker was
>> mounted, used and removed each fall. Either of those tractors would pull
>> 4x14's fine.
>>
>> Been a lot of years ago now.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Francis Robinson
>> aka "farmer"
>> Central Indiana USA
>> robinson46176 at gmail.com
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