[AT] Test

[Cecil R Bearden]

Charlie:
there are 2 things that one must remember when trying to understand what 
all the governments are trying to change.

1.  Corporations make no money during peacetime.

2. Corporations make no money if there is no global alarm about something.

I was too young at the time to follow it, but Eisenhower warned the 
people about the Military/Industrial complex in his farewell address.

I will end this for fear of becoming political...

Cecil in OKla



On 12/6/2015 8:53 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> You are correct about that Farmer, in fact there is a slight difference,
> a foot or so I think, in the elevation of the Pacific over the Atlantic.
> I don't remember which is higher.  That is caused by the currents and the
> choke points where the two oceans meet and the effect of the earths
> rotation.
> Yes flows affect water level
> at times and in places but the ocean is NOT 2 feet higher in Maine than
> it was 30 years ago and the same height in North Carolina.  Of course
> you have to account for tides due to the moon and sun and the tide rise
> is higher up north and way down south than it is nearer the equator but
> that isn't what I'm talking about.  I'm talking about permanent changes
> in mean high tide in one place and not in the other.  It can't happen.
> Sooner or later the
> water will flow out and equalize and it doesn't take years.   As for those
> islands that are disappearing.  I contend that they are sinking in the ocean
> or eroding away.  Remember the land mass does move around and the
> tectonic plates are constantly but slowly moving but the water flows free
> of the land masses.  If it does happen it's because something has changed
> about the land masses elevation or possibly the magnetic field of the earth
> has shifted and affected how the water stacks up.  In other words the shape
> of the earth changes, as you said.  It's not because of "global warming".
>
> The other thing that amuses me is all of this stuff about the sea level
> rising
> because ice bergs are melting.  CAN'T happen!  A floating body displaces
> it's mass
> in a liquid.  If the floating body is the same liquid only frozen, when it
> melts it's mass changes to that
> of the liquid form and it displaces the the volume of the "hole" it was
> floating in.  Try it,
> put an ice cube in a glass and fill the glass all the way to the rim with
> water so that the
> tip of the ice cube is sticking above the glass.  Watch it melt.  If you
> don't tip it or disturb it
> all of the water will be contained in the glass and not a drop will spill
> over the edge.   That also applies
> to the chunks of ice that "calf" off of Antarctica.  The only melting ice
> that can raise the sea levels
> is that which is supported by dry land.
>
> I'll leave this alone and get back to tractors.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indiana Robinson
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:17 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Test
>
> Hi Charlie:
> Here is a pretty simple explanation that shows that the situation is not
> simple.
> :-)
> Round is subjective as far as the earth. I was recently reading about low
> Indonesian islands that had a maximum elevation of maybe 4 to 6 feet that
> are now underwater full time. Their island count is going down. On the
> other hand in some parts of the world some mountain tops in the ocean are
> said to be sticking up a little that didn't use to.
> The ocean does not just lay there, most of it is moving all of the time
> with very strong currents much like a big river. We have all seen flooded
> roads where you could see that the water on the upstream side of the road
> was maybe a foot higher than on the down stream side of the road.
> I have 17 acres of river in the next county that as you look at it it looks
> pretty flat but the water flows. I know from several land surveys that the
> river actually drops over 10' in the length of my property (was a water
> powered grist / sawmill site).
>
> http://www.johnenglander.net/sea-level-rise-blog/sea-level-not-same-everywhere-300-foot-variation
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