[AT] Need help troubleshooting engine/compressor

Mon Aug 17 16:19:46 PDT 2015

Sounds like they need to start giving the guy larger fines!!!

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> On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:20 AM, Cecil R Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
> 
> Just a note, I had to stop during the repair of the Sullair to help put 
> out a fire my City born & Bred neighbors created.  They set fire to 2 
> brush piles then went to church.  The wind got up fron the South and the 
> fire was heading across a pasture that was cut about 2 weeks ago for 
> hay. Another 200 yds and it would have hit the cedar lined fencerow and 
> my 3 ft tall prairie hay that needs to be cut tomorrow and the 3 acres 
> of hay left in windrows on the ground.  Not to mention my semi loaded 
> with hay on the field.......     Fire dept came and put it out and 
> thought I had been baling again!!   Neighbor seems to think I sorta 
> overreacted.....    The idiot has been fined 2 times before for burning 
> in a burn ban.    They guy that cuts the hay in that field had left his 
> hydro swing and Bat wing mower setting on the North and South side of 
> that brush pile they set fire to..   If It had gone a little further, 
> the Hydro swing had about 35gallons of oil to add to things...
> 
> The idiots they let move out here!!!!
> 
> Cecil in OKla
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/16/2015 10:24 PM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>> Bo:
>> Thanks, that is what I ended up doing..    I loosened up the spring on
>> that Sullicon control some...  It was adjusted to the max.   Then I
>> backed off the Pressure regulator screw.  Then I also lengthened the rod
>> from the governor to the Sullicon.  The 6cyl carb I installed had the
>> float hinged at the front end of the engine.  The intake manifold carb
>> flange was angled to allow the carb to be horizontal when installed in a
>> vehicle.  In the compressor it causes the front end to be low.  The new
>> carb was flooding some due to this.    I set the float level down and
>> also backed off the auto choke.  I also advanced the timing a lot.  It
>> finally would start and run  enough to build up minimum pressure and cut
>> back...    I ran the compressor at open discharge and it ran for a while
>> then loaded up and died.   It would not start.  I checked and had no
>> spark at the coil.   Installed the old coil and it ran. The new BWD $30
>> coil lasted about 10 minutes...  I adjusted the compressor to run at
>> 90-100 psi when blowing through a 1/2 inch hose barb.  I have a claw
>> foot hose barb end that connects to a 4 ft length of pipe with a valve
>> that I blow off the equipment with.  I think it will improve with
>> running, I still have to make an adapter to fit the air horn of the carb...
>> 
>> Now if I could just get the Leroi running.  I got a 60cc syringe and put
>> 60cc of SiliKroil in each cylinder.    It may not do much for the
>> valves, but it will loosen any rings that are stuck...
>> 
>> Thanks for your advice...
>> 
>> Cecil in OKla
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/16/2015 4:55 PM, Bo Hinch wrote:
>>> Cecil, I would disconnect the INLET VALVE CONTROL  ROD ( see top left
>>> corner of photo ) and manually shut off air intake . The compressor should
>>> NOT build up any air pressure with that valve shut off ( unless it is
>>> sucking air downstream of the valve) which it shouldn`t . That way you can
>>> safely run the motor without disconnecting the compressor from the motor
>>> OR, you could back off the PRESSURE REGULATOR SCREW ( unscrew it ) to
>>> maintain little to NO air pressure . The REGULATOR is shown mounted next to
>>> the SULLICON Control .I would count the turns I unscrewed it so I could put
>>> it back at same setting .
>>> 
>>>>   Bo Hinch in s/w louisiana
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Cecil R Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I started to rebuild the sullair carb this morning.  Carb kit was the
>>>>> wrong one of course.  Could not tell until I got it open so was not
>>>>> returnable...  Another $40 down the drain..  I thought I would use the
>>>>> needle & seat and make a gasket.  When trying to install one of the main
>>>>> jets, it had a spring loaded metering rod in it.  Spring hung on the
>>>>> threads of the housing and then went "ping", a very very bad sound.  I
>>>>> heard it when it hit the hitch of the compressor. Trying to get that one
>>>>> together is out of the question now.    I looked up a carb that was used
>>>>> on the 6cyl and smaller Ford engines.  Oreilly parts had it at the
>>>>> warehouse and I could get it in 2 hours for only $249  It had a similar
>>>>> linkage and I could always use the main jet from the old one if I needed
>>>>> to cut down the gas consumption.   Finally about 8pm this evening I had
>>>>> the new one installed and only needed to build an adapter for the air
>>>>> cleaner connection......
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tried to start it and it was just the same as it was 4 days and $400
>>>>> ago.............   Maybe tomorrow I will remove the compressor and try
>>>>> to start the engine and just let it run for a couple of hours.........
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are 2 complete motors running in Tulsa with the computer
>>>>> connections for $650 for both...   They sound really good, I should have
>>>>> made the trip today....  It will still take me a week to R&R one of these.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just another day in paradise!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/15/2015 6:07 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>> I haven't done it on my current truck but on most of my pickups and my
>>>>>> tractors
>>>>>> I've been known to add a quart of Dexron ATF or a quart of diesel fuel
>>>>> and
>>>>>> let the
>>>>>> engine idle for a few minutes before dumping the oil for an oil change.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If it ever damaged anything I don't know it and it sure helps was the
>>>>> crud
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Steve W.
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 4:00 AM
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Need help troubleshooting engine/compressor
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>>>>>>> OK I will try.   Got anything for stuck lifters??
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>>> Marvel Mystery oil.
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