[AT] Test

Thu Aug 6 14:07:23 PDT 2015

My experience differs. Especially with construction zones that the 
commuters all know is there every day. Now length of the open lanes yes 
rather than coming to a complete stop and blocking BOTH lanes in the 
late attempt to merge. I like the sign a saw in GA where two multilane 
roads merged. "Give gap, take gap". If that was truly followed merging 
later is not a bad thing. As least where I drive that rarely happens.

David
NW NC

On 8/6/2015 2:29 PM, Carl Gogol wrote:
> New York DOT says the correct thing is to use the full length of the open
> lanes and don't merge until necessary. They believe that is the most
> efficient for traffic flow. A few years ago, NY State police and local cops
> were considering the late merge as aggressive driving and sometimes
> ticketing.  One of the local stations had interviews from both organizations
> - I think DOT prevailed as that is what their signage is designed for.
> Carl
> Central, NY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 2:00 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion Subject: Re: [AT] Test
>
> This is why you need to take a class the guy who waits for the last minute
> to merge is doing the right thing! Look up the zipper merge and be
> enlightened.
>
>
> On August 6, 2015 12:10:06 PM CDT, David Bruce <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
> wrote:
>> My personal pet peeve is what should be done at a stop when there are
>> stopped cars waiting to turn. Given the age of the drivers in the other
>>
>> cars apparently that is no longer taught in any driver's ed class. That
>>
>> is not related at all to semi drivers unless they are in their personal
>>
>> vehicles. My second pet peeve is when a divided highway is squeezed
>> down to one lane in your direction of travel. A warning sing a couple
>> miles before the merge which normally gives adequate time to make the
>> merge safely and without disrupting traffic flow. But always some self
>> important jackass drivers all the way to the backup then tries to force
>>
>> his/her way into the moving lane.
>>
>> David
>> NW NC
>>
>> On 8/6/2015 12:14 PM, Henry Miller wrote:
>>> Everyone should take a regular refresher course on how to drive. I
>> sat through a one hour defense driving course over lunch (work paid for
>> the course), and I was surprised how much has changed since I took
>> drivers ed... I think most of you are older than me, and probably have
>> even more bad ideas that were best practice when you learned.
>>> A full how to drive class is too much, but a few hours in class can
>> be helpful.
>>> On August 6, 2015 10:37:23 AM CDT, charlie hill
>> <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I looked into renting a truck once Dennis.  The only guy I could
>> find
>>>> that
>>>> would do it was about 40 miles
>>>> away from the testing center.  He wanted $500.00 and I think it was
>>>> reasonable given that he had to send a driver to deliver the truck,
>>>> stay with it and drive it
>> back
>>>> home
>>>> but it was more than I wanted
>>>> to put into it when I didn't have a driving job.   There are some
>>>> community
>>>> colleges here that will do
>>>> it fairly cheap but in order to use their stuff you have to take
>> their
>>>> entire course and since I know how
>>>> to drive and I can read the manual I don't see much need in
>> investing
>>>> the
>>>> time and money.
>>>> I've got some friends that would loan me a truck if I really needed
>> to
>>>> get
>>>> the license but just to get it
>>>> for the heck of it I'm not going to ask them for such a big favor.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dennis Johnson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 10:23 AM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Test
>>>>
>>>> I also got my CDL a long time ago, and did not have to do the
>> drivers
>>>> test
>>>> due to "grandfather" clause. My original CDL was when I was driving
>>>> taxi in college.
>>>> Around here there are several companies that  offer "rent my truck
>> for
>>>> CDL
>>>> test" where they guarantee that the truck passes. Several of these
>>>> companies also offer classes including driving classes. When you go
>>>> with them,
>> it
>>>> may
>>>> help with the testing since many of these instructors know the state
>>>> troopers who did the testing. Here there are 1 or 2 of these
>> companies
>>>> that
>>>> operate out of the parking lot at the testing center.
>>>> My son rented one of these trucks when he did his test a few years
>> back
>>>> -
>>>> think it was $250 / $300 range for the truck plus the instructor
>> needed
>>>> to
>>>> ride with him between the location of the truck rental center and
>> the
>>>> driver
>>>> testing area.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:08 AM, David Bruce <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> It was a real blessing for the motoring public when the CDL was
>>>>> instituted. Got rid of a lot of the "cowboy drivers" who were a
>>>> menace.
>>>>> Granted there are issues and nothing is perfect but I do remember
>> the
>>>>> pre-CDL days not so fondly. Professional acting big rig drivers
>> have
>>>> my
>>>>> ultimate respect and I try to be respectful. I had an eye opening
>>>>> experience when moving a tractor on a trailer when I moved a couple
>>>>> decades ago. Most drivers are complete idiots.
>>>>>
>>>>> Had a perfect example of that a couple days ago. On a divided
>> highway
>>>> I
>>>>> damn near rear ended a van pulling an open trailer. Driving well
>>>> under
>>>>> the minimum speed because of a flat on one of the trailer wheels.
>> No
>>>>> warning lights, the FedEx truck in front of me gave no warning
>> before
>>>>> whipping around him. I was lucky in I had room to move as well. I
>>>>> sympathize with the issue with the trailer limping home with one
>> tire
>>>>> shredding (dual axle) but some flashers would have been nice. 65+
>> MPH
>>>>> simply does not mix with 35 MPH.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 9:30 AM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>>>>>> I got mine so long ago that I did not have to take the driving
>>>> test...!!
>>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 7:59 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>> Cecil,  I had to renew my drivers license this year and waited
>>>>>>> (true to my form) until the day before my birthday.  I have a
>> Class
>>>>>>> A license which is the same as a CDL but without any
>> endorsements.
>>>>>>> More accurately it is what was a CDL before there was a CDL and I
>>>>>>> never updated it.  I don't know what use it is to me but I keep
>> it
>>>>>>> and that means I have to renew every 4 years instead of every 5
>> and
>>>>>>> I have to go in and take the eye test every time.  This time I
>> got
>>>> cocky
>>>>>>> and didn't bother to look at the book before hand.  I passed and
>>>> got
>>>>>>> everything right but it scared me when I looked at that round
>>>> circle on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> screen and had to pause 10 seconds to realize that, painted
>> yellow
>>>> with
>>>>>>> an X on it, it's a rail road crossing.   I did the same thing
>> when
>>>> I saw
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> baseball home plate on the screen and had to pause to realize
>> it's
>>>> a
>>>>>>> school crossing.  It's amazing how easy it is to get partially
>>>> stumped
>>>>>>> on something you know cold just by removing  a few details.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I keep thinking I'll go and take the driving test and get a CDL
>> but
>>>> to
>>>>>>> do so I'd have to borrow someone's road tractor and trailer and
>> it
>>>>>>> has to be one that you know will pass inspection (no air or oil
>>>> leaks,
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> lights working, etc.).  That's kind of a big favor to ask of
>>>> someone.
>>>>>>> I guess at 65 I should just drop the Class A back to a Class C
>> and
>>>>>>> forget
>>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:27 AM
>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Test
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Charlie.  It has been so long ago I had to study that I
>>>> forgot
>>>>>>> how.   I used to hold a hazmat CDL cetification.  I always had to
>>>> take
>>>>>>> it the second time to pass.  After 6 years and no Hazmat loads, I
>>>>>>> dropped it so I could quit studying...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 1:05 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>> no you passed fine without studying Cecil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 5:26 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Test
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do I have to study for this test??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Made it to OK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2015 4:11 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Not getting any mail at this end.
>>>>>>>>> I know I've been missing some.
>>>>>>>>> Now I seem to be missing all.
>>>>>>>>>
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