[AT] Need help troubleshooting engine/compressor

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Tue Aug 11 09:43:29 PDT 2015


strange!

Maybe yours is/was automatic somehow and built into the start side of
the ignition.  Don't know

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:12 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Need help troubleshooting engine/compressor

Looked again.  Not one there nor is there a place for one.  Never had
one...  Talked to previous owner who bought it new.  Never had one....

Cecil


On 8/11/2015 8:50 AM, charlie hill wrote:
> That bypass is what allows it to start.  It should also
> relieve the load on the compressor end.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil R Bearden
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:11 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Need help troubleshooting engine/compressor
>
> It has the button bypass switch to bypass the safety shutdown switches.
> I wired around these a long time ago because I did not have enough hands
> to operate the switches and the choke.....
>
> Cecil
>
>
> On 8/11/2015 7:55 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>> I've been around a lot of compressors after working 25+ years
>> in industrial maintenance with a lot of sandblasting.  I've never
>> seen a compressor that didn't have some sort of by-pass button or
>> valve that you manually hold in to let the engine start and get
>> up to speed.  Cecil, maybe yours is automatic and you don't have
>> to manually hold it but it should be there.  Most of the time there
>> is a button or a switch right beside the ignition key for that purpose.
>> I have seen those by-pass valves fail and cause the problem you
>> are describing.   I've seen my guys wire the linkage open to get them
>> going.  Without seeing your compressor I wouldn't know where to tell
>> you to begin.  We used to run gasoline powered compressors but I
>> haven't been around anything but diesel for over 20 years.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Doug Tallman
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:18 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Need help troubleshooting engine/compressor
>>
>> Cecil, It sounds like carburetion issues or a big vacuum leak. I'd think
>> you would hear the hiss of a leak that big. Maybe try spraying a little
>> carb cleaner around the manifold and see if it picks up. Doug T
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/11/2015 7:09 AM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>>> Sullair 185 w/ ford/Mazda 4cyl gas engine.  Compressor always has been
>>> cold natured.  Had to be completely warmed up before choke could be shut
>>> off.  Open air line valve and engine would die without choke on at least
>>> half way.  Working fine a month ago.   Now, Engine tries to start and
>>> gets up to idle speed but compressor is loading engine and it cannot get
>>> up to operating speed.  If compressor could be disconnected from engine,
>>> it would get up to operating speed. Have replaced fuel pump, and plug
>>> wires.  Spark plug had some surface carbon but not really gunked up.
>>> took air intake elbow off of compressor and tried to cut off air intake
>>> to allow engine to start, but it nearly sucked my hand into the pipe.
>>> In the past distributor,ignition control box, and coil have been
>>> replaced.  Have worked on engines gas, propane and diesel for 50 years
>>> and this one has me beat......  This is the reason I like Diesel!!!
>>>
>>> I use this for sandblasting and blowing off the round baler.  Right now,
>>> the baler has some hay lodged between the belts and the rollers on the
>>> back side and it has the baler bound up.  The only way to get this out
>>> is to use a lot of high pressure air and cut the hay out with the air.
>>> Or, cut the belts pull them out with the loader and re-splice.  I did
>>> not blow off the baler last time i used it, it was trying to rain after
>>> I put the new bearing in that was causing the fires.  The hay builds up
>>> in the back above the top of the bale chamber, and causes the belts to
>>> stick.  Really dry hay is the worst problem...
>>>
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