[AT] Test

Thu Aug 6 10:59:43 PDT 2015

This is why you need to take a class the guy who waits for the last minute to merge is doing the right thing! Look up the zipper merge and be enlightened. 

On August 6, 2015 12:10:06 PM CDT, David Bruce <davidbruce at yadtel.net> wrote:
>My personal pet peeve is what should be done at a stop when there are 
>stopped cars waiting to turn. Given the age of the drivers in the other
>
>cars apparently that is no longer taught in any driver's ed class. That
>
>is not related at all to semi drivers unless they are in their personal
>
>vehicles. My second pet peeve is when a divided highway is squeezed
>down 
>to one lane in your direction of travel. A warning sing a couple miles 
>before the merge which normally gives adequate time to make the merge 
>safely and without disrupting traffic flow. But always some self 
>important jackass drivers all the way to the backup then tries to force
>
>his/her way into the moving lane.
>
>David
>NW NC
>
>On 8/6/2015 12:14 PM, Henry Miller wrote:
>> Everyone should take a regular refresher course on how to drive. I
>sat through a one hour defense driving course over lunch (work paid for
>the course), and I was surprised how much has changed since I took
>drivers ed... I think most of you are older than me, and probably have
>even more bad ideas that were best practice when you learned.
>>
>> A full how to drive class is too much, but a few hours in class can
>be helpful.
>>
>> On August 6, 2015 10:37:23 AM CDT, charlie hill
><charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>> I looked into renting a truck once Dennis.  The only guy I could
>find
>>> that
>>> would do it was about 40 miles
>>> away from the testing center.  He wanted $500.00 and I think it was
>>> reasonable given that he had
>>> to send a driver to deliver the truck, stay with it and drive it
>back
>>> home
>>> but it was more than I wanted
>>> to put into it when I didn't have a driving job.   There are some
>>> community
>>> colleges here that will do
>>> it fairly cheap but in order to use their stuff you have to take
>their
>>> entire course and since I know how
>>> to drive and I can read the manual I don't see much need in
>investing
>>> the
>>> time and money.
>>> I've got some friends that would loan me a truck if I really needed
>to
>>> get
>>> the license but just to get it
>>> for the heck of it I'm not going to ask them for such a big favor.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dennis Johnson
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 10:23 AM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Test
>>>
>>> I also got my CDL a long time ago, and did not have to do the
>drivers
>>> test
>>> due to "grandfather" clause. My original CDL was when I was driving
>>> taxi in
>>> college.
>>> Around here there are several companies that  offer "rent my truck
>for
>>> CDL
>>> test" where they guarantee that the truck passes. Several of these
>>> companies
>>> also offer classes including driving classes. When you go with them,
>it
>>> may
>>> help with the testing since many of these instructors know the state
>>> troopers who did the testing. Here there are 1 or 2 of these
>companies
>>> that
>>> operate out of the parking lot at the testing center.
>>> My son rented one of these trucks when he did his test a few years
>back
>>> -
>>> think it was $250 / $300 range for the truck plus the instructor
>needed
>>> to
>>> ride with him between the location of the truck rental center and
>the
>>> driver
>>> testing area.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:08 AM, David Bruce <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> It was a real blessing for the motoring public when the CDL was
>>>> instituted. Got rid of a lot of the "cowboy drivers" who were a
>>> menace.
>>>> Granted there are issues and nothing is perfect but I do remember
>the
>>>> pre-CDL days not so fondly. Professional acting big rig drivers
>have
>>> my
>>>> ultimate respect and I try to be respectful. I had an eye opening
>>>> experience when moving a tractor on a trailer when I moved a couple
>>>> decades ago. Most drivers are complete idiots.
>>>>
>>>> Had a perfect example of that a couple days ago. On a divided
>highway
>>> I
>>>> damn near rear ended a van pulling an open trailer. Driving well
>>> under
>>>> the minimum speed because of a flat on one of the trailer wheels.
>No
>>>> warning lights, the FedEx truck in front of me gave no warning
>before
>>>> whipping around him. I was lucky in I had room to move as well. I
>>>> sympathize with the issue with the trailer limping home with one
>tire
>>>> shredding (dual axle) but some flashers would have been nice. 65+
>MPH
>>>> simply does not mix with 35 MPH.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> NW NC
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/6/2015 9:30 AM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>>>>> I got mine so long ago that I did not have to take the driving
>>> test...!!
>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 7:59 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>> Cecil,  I had to renew my drivers license this year and waited
>>>>>> (true to my form) until the day before my birthday.  I have a
>Class
>>>>>> A license which is the same as a CDL but without any
>endorsements.
>>>>>> More accurately it is what was a CDL before there was a CDL and I
>>>>>> never updated it.  I don't know what use it is to me but I keep
>it
>>>>>> and that means I have to renew every 4 years instead of every 5
>and
>>>>>> I have to go in and take the eye test every time.  This time I
>got
>>> cocky
>>>>>> and didn't bother to look at the book before hand.  I passed and
>>> got
>>>>>> everything right but it scared me when I looked at that round
>>> circle on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> screen and had to pause 10 seconds to realize that, painted
>yellow
>>> with
>>>>>> an X on it, it's a rail road crossing.   I did the same thing
>when
>>> I saw
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> baseball home plate on the screen and had to pause to realize
>it's
>>> a
>>>>>> school crossing.  It's amazing how easy it is to get partially
>>> stumped
>>>>>> on something you know cold just by removing  a few details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep thinking I'll go and take the driving test and get a CDL
>but
>>> to
>>>>>> do so I'd have to borrow someone's road tractor and trailer and
>it
>>>>>> has to be one that you know will pass inspection (no air or oil
>>> leaks,
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> lights working, etc.).  That's kind of a big favor to ask of
>>> someone.
>>>>>> I guess at 65 I should just drop the Class A back to a Class C
>and
>>>>>> forget
>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:27 AM
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Test
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Charlie.  It has been so long ago I had to study that I
>>> forgot
>>>>>> how.   I used to hold a hazmat CDL cetification.  I always had to
>>> take
>>>>>> it the second time to pass.  After 6 years and no Hazmat loads, I
>>>>>> dropped it so I could quit studying...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 1:05 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>> no you passed fine without studying Cecil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 5:26 PM
>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Test
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do I have to study for this test??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Made it to OK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2015 4:11 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>> Not getting any mail at this end.
>>>>>>>> I know I've been missing some.
>>>>>>>> Now I seem to be missing all.
>>>>>>>>
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