[AT] Test

Thu Aug 6 10:10:06 PDT 2015

My personal pet peeve is what should be done at a stop when there are 
stopped cars waiting to turn. Given the age of the drivers in the other 
cars apparently that is no longer taught in any driver's ed class. That 
is not related at all to semi drivers unless they are in their personal 
vehicles. My second pet peeve is when a divided highway is squeezed down 
to one lane in your direction of travel. A warning sing a couple miles 
before the merge which normally gives adequate time to make the merge 
safely and without disrupting traffic flow. But always some self 
important jackass drivers all the way to the backup then tries to force 
his/her way into the moving lane.

David
NW NC

On 8/6/2015 12:14 PM, Henry Miller wrote:
> Everyone should take a regular refresher course on how to drive. I sat through a one hour defense driving course over lunch (work paid for the course), and I was surprised how much has changed since I took drivers ed... I think most of you are older than me, and probably have even more bad ideas that were best practice when you learned.
>
> A full how to drive class is too much, but a few hours in class can be helpful.
>
> On August 6, 2015 10:37:23 AM CDT, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> I looked into renting a truck once Dennis.  The only guy I could find
>> that
>> would do it was about 40 miles
>> away from the testing center.  He wanted $500.00 and I think it was
>> reasonable given that he had
>> to send a driver to deliver the truck, stay with it and drive it back
>> home
>> but it was more than I wanted
>> to put into it when I didn't have a driving job.   There are some
>> community
>> colleges here that will do
>> it fairly cheap but in order to use their stuff you have to take their
>> entire course and since I know how
>> to drive and I can read the manual I don't see much need in investing
>> the
>> time and money.
>> I've got some friends that would loan me a truck if I really needed to
>> get
>> the license but just to get it
>> for the heck of it I'm not going to ask them for such a big favor.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dennis Johnson
>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 10:23 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Test
>>
>> I also got my CDL a long time ago, and did not have to do the drivers
>> test
>> due to "grandfather" clause. My original CDL was when I was driving
>> taxi in
>> college.
>> Around here there are several companies that  offer "rent my truck for
>> CDL
>> test" where they guarantee that the truck passes. Several of these
>> companies
>> also offer classes including driving classes. When you go with them, it
>> may
>> help with the testing since many of these instructors know the state
>> troopers who did the testing. Here there are 1 or 2 of these companies
>> that
>> operate out of the parking lot at the testing center.
>> My son rented one of these trucks when he did his test a few years back
>> -
>> think it was $250 / $300 range for the truck plus the instructor needed
>> to
>> ride with him between the location of the truck rental center and the
>> driver
>> testing area.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:08 AM, David Bruce <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>> wrote:
>>> It was a real blessing for the motoring public when the CDL was
>>> instituted. Got rid of a lot of the "cowboy drivers" who were a
>> menace.
>>> Granted there are issues and nothing is perfect but I do remember the
>>> pre-CDL days not so fondly. Professional acting big rig drivers have
>> my
>>> ultimate respect and I try to be respectful. I had an eye opening
>>> experience when moving a tractor on a trailer when I moved a couple
>>> decades ago. Most drivers are complete idiots.
>>>
>>> Had a perfect example of that a couple days ago. On a divided highway
>> I
>>> damn near rear ended a van pulling an open trailer. Driving well
>> under
>>> the minimum speed because of a flat on one of the trailer wheels. No
>>> warning lights, the FedEx truck in front of me gave no warning before
>>> whipping around him. I was lucky in I had room to move as well. I
>>> sympathize with the issue with the trailer limping home with one tire
>>> shredding (dual axle) but some flashers would have been nice. 65+ MPH
>>> simply does not mix with 35 MPH.
>>>
>>> David
>>> NW NC
>>>
>>>> On 8/6/2015 9:30 AM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>>>> I got mine so long ago that I did not have to take the driving
>> test...!!
>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/6/2015 7:59 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>> Cecil,  I had to renew my drivers license this year and waited
>>>>> (true to my form) until the day before my birthday.  I have a Class
>>>>> A license which is the same as a CDL but without any endorsements.
>>>>> More accurately it is what was a CDL before there was a CDL and I
>>>>> never updated it.  I don't know what use it is to me but I keep it
>>>>> and that means I have to renew every 4 years instead of every 5 and
>>>>> I have to go in and take the eye test every time.  This time I got
>> cocky
>>>>> and didn't bother to look at the book before hand.  I passed and
>> got
>>>>> everything right but it scared me when I looked at that round
>> circle on
>>>>> the
>>>>> screen and had to pause 10 seconds to realize that, painted yellow
>> with
>>>>> an X on it, it's a rail road crossing.   I did the same thing when
>> I saw
>>>>> that
>>>>> baseball home plate on the screen and had to pause to realize it's
>> a
>>>>> school crossing.  It's amazing how easy it is to get partially
>> stumped
>>>>> on something you know cold just by removing  a few details.
>>>>>
>>>>> I keep thinking I'll go and take the driving test and get a CDL but
>> to
>>>>> do so I'd have to borrow someone's road tractor and trailer and it
>>>>> has to be one that you know will pass inspection (no air or oil
>> leaks,
>>>>> all
>>>>> lights working, etc.).  That's kind of a big favor to ask of
>> someone.
>>>>> I guess at 65 I should just drop the Class A back to a Class C and
>>>>> forget
>>>>> about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:27 AM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Test
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Charlie.  It has been so long ago I had to study that I
>> forgot
>>>>> how.   I used to hold a hazmat CDL cetification.  I always had to
>> take
>>>>> it the second time to pass.  After 6 years and no Hazmat loads, I
>>>>> dropped it so I could quit studying...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 1:05 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>> no you passed fine without studying Cecil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 5:26 PM
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Test
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do I have to study for this test??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Made it to OK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/5/2015 4:11 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>> Not getting any mail at this end.
>>>>>>> I know I've been missing some.
>>>>>>> Now I seem to be missing all.
>>>>>>>
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