[AT] More Ford Jubilee Adventures

Mon Aug 3 18:12:21 PDT 2015

So I put a new correct condenser in the Jubilee and gapped new points to
.025. Hit the starter button and the starter side terminal of the solenoid
threw sparks. I figure this is one of several things: The starter is in a
dead spot or stuck engaged and I'll have to roll the tractor a bit in gear
to free it; the starter is bad;  the wires have corroded connections
(likely) and I need to clean them; or, my solenoid crapped out by
coincidence. Whatever the cause it got too dark to fool with it and I'll
have to get back to it later this week.I have a solenoid on hand from the
last time the starter got stuck and I thought the solenoid had quit. It
clicks when it sparks so I think it's doing it's part.

Warren

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:47 PM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
wrote:

> It's probably a timing issue.  I've only installed one Petronix and that
> was on a 5 hp B&S but when I put it back together it wouldn't hit a lick.
> I did everything I could think of and finally went and talked to a B&S
> dealer friend of mine.  He called his tech rep.  The guy immediately told
> me I didn't have the flywheel nut tight enough and it was throwing the
> timing
> off.  I told him it was as tight as I knew how to get it.  He told me to
> put
> a
> box end wrench on the nut and hit the other end of the wrench hard with at
> least
> a 2 lb hammer.  I did.  I was convinced that I had not tightened the nut at
> all but
> when I pulled the cord she fired and ran.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Glass
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 4:48 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] More Ford Jubilee Adventures
>
> I haven't seen any guide on that.  Several people say to just widen the
> gap.  I changed to a resistor type plug in an old Chevy two ton and it
> made worlds of difference.
>
> On 8/3/2015 3:15 PM, Brian VanDragt wrote:
> > How do you know what plugs to change to?  Are you just going to a hotter
> > or colder heat range?
> > Brian
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Dan Glass" <dglass at numail.org>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 1:04:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] More Ford Jubilee Adventures
> >
> > I have had to do it on about half of the conversions but I don't think
> > it would hurt on any of them.
> >
> > On 8/3/2015 12:37 PM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
> >> So far I have not had to change any plugs in the ones I converted.
> >>
> >> Cecil in OKla
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/3/2015 11:24 AM, Dan Glass wrote:
> >>> I have always found Pertronix ignitions to be great but they do need
> the
> >>> right coil and you will often have to change the plugs from the
> original
> >>> to get the best performance.  If the plugs are wrong the engine will
> >>> still run good but will not have great power and they never mentioned
> >>> that in the ads.
> >>>
> >>> On 8/3/2015 11:29 AM, Mogrits wrote:
> >>>> Thanks for the replies. I'm glad to know the wrong condenser could
> keep
> >>>> it
> >>>> from running though it fires. I "reserved" the right points and
> >>>> condenser
> >>>> from my local NAPA and will pick them up today.
> >>>>
> >>>> Of all the parts houses, NAPA is the only one I can find that lets you
> >>>> search tractor parts by year and make. The other houses have them, but
> >>>> you
> >>>> must have a part number as they can't search by tractor.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've heard nothing but good stuff about the Pertronix system, going
> way
> >>>> back to my MGB. As infrequently as some of my stuff gets run, I think
> >>>> it
> >>>> will be a good investment, as every time I go to use something I end
> up
> >>>> polishing points at a minimum.
> >>>>
> >>>> As to the solenoid and what not- I see a value in that system but it
> >>>> also
> >>>> overcomplicates a very simple system that works fine except for (my)
> >>>> operator error. After this adventure I doubt I will forget the key
> >>>> again.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks again,
> >>>> Warren
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Steve W. <swilliams268 at frontier.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Bo Hinch wrote:
> >>>>>> You are correct Cecil , BUT , if you leave the switch on , it will
> >>>>>> ALL be
> >>>>>> toasted again , which is what started the problems in the beginning
> .
> >>>>>> Bo Hinch in S/W Louisiana
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> The Pertronix kit is a GREAT item for older engines. I've used the
> >>>>> trigger unit to build ignition systems for other engines as well.
> >>>>> Currently adapting one to fit an ancient Onan on a welder.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Steve W.
> >>>>>
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