[AT] Disk Plow or One-Way Plow

[charlie hill]

Cecil that Big OX should do the job just fine!
Did you ever talk to the guys at AllisChalmers.com
about that oil problem on the 7030?  That tractor
should pull the V plow with no problems.

Have you still got the Belarus?

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 1:04 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Disk Plow or One-Way Plow

I have a 7 shank big Ox V-plow.  It was last used about 15 years ago
with a MF1155.  I no longer have that tractor.  I have a 2-105 White,
but the lift arms were removed when the lift cylinders kept leaking 5
gallons a day of hyd oil. The control valves seem to let pressure by and
it just keeps pressuring up.  It was bought from a guy who bought it new
and only used it for sowing wheat.  Dad bought it at an auction.  When I
went to pick it up, I noticed that the left side rear tires were worn
twice as much as the left.  They were a matching set of 4 tires.   From
turning left most of its life in flat ground, the right side tires
traveled that much more.  Thats a lot of wheat sowing!!!!

The P-8 One-way plow I bought 2 days ago, worked fairly good after I
finally got it set, but the 60 yr old bolts broke in the draw hitch and
caused it to break out the front disk.  I replaced 3 of the 4ea  1/2 in
bolts that held the hitch only to find that the 3/4 inch ones that held
the top link hitch were about to break. I cannot imagine setting on an
8N ford pulling that thing!!!!!!

I have a 7030 Allis Chalmers that needs some make ready work to run, but
it should pull OK if the oil does not boil out of the filler plug under
the seat.   I think that is from the power divider maybe.  Last time it
was used was to pull a swather 2 years ago.  It has 3 point hitch.  I
also have a 2470 Case 4wd that needs tires and have the duals and
adapters to change it over from 24.5 x 32 singles.    I have bewen
trying to get my hay stores built back up and got tied up with a
neighbor with a rough patch of ground that took 3 times longer to cut
and bale than it should.  This will not happen next year.  Only saving
grace is that the hay off that patch is sold already to pay for fuel and
net wrap.

I tried those tillage radishes last year.  Those radishes originated in
Vietnam ( read Wet Wet country) Oklahoma was in a drought last year.  I
planted $300 worth of them and the only place a few came up was in a
damp spot in what was usually a mudhole in my terrace end.    I do
things different here.  I have large 2 ft deep pits at the end of my
terraces before it dumps into the waterway.  This allows me to catch
some of the soil that is in suspension.  My waterway also has several
large "stilling basins" in it due to me taking soil from here to fill in
holes in the pasture.  Those tillage radishes might work when you have
rainfall.

I have a friend who has a 1650 Case Dozer with a 5 shank ripper. He
suggested using it a while ago.   He has been wanting to deal me out of
my little pancake cab 63 GMC truck tractor with the 6v71 Detroit.   It
has not been run in 15 years, but it was the first Diesel truck Dad & I
bought.  The old Detroit fired off with a new battery and some fresh
fuel in the tanks!!!!

If I had some time and the back I had 10 years ago, I would not be in
this predicament.    Of course then I still had my Dad  to help and
figure out what to do next.......

Cecil in oKla



On 9/5/2014 8:31 PM, Henry Miller wrote:
> The cover crop dealers keep advertising how great some crops are at 
> breaking up soil compaction. Might be worth a shot this winter. If it 
> doesn't work you don't lose much, if it helps at all you save fuel. 
> Probably you can get subsidies from someone to try it as well.
>
> On September 5, 2014 1:53:09 PM CDT, Greg Hass <ghass at m3isp.com> wrote:
>> I think a subsoiler is the way to go. Last year we had a power line go
>> through (we were given no choice) ; they promised to restore the land
>> as
>> close as possible to original conditions (surprise, all lies). Some of
>> their equipment was upwards of 80 tons. Although they promised to try
>> and avoid damage as much as possible, every time it rained they came
>> in.
>> When they pulled the cement trucks in they left ruts over a foot deep.
>> I
>> thought they would come in with a bulldozer with ripper teeth to break
>> up the hardpan but when I asked they said they had no intention of
>> doing
>> that. Several years ago I bought a one tooth subsoiler from a company
>> called Monroe-Tufline. At the time I only had a 50 hp tractor. I can go
>>
>> 16 inches deep so last fall I tried breaking up under the power line. I
>>
>> could only pull it 8 inches deep and then would have to turn around and
>>
>> re-rip the same pass. It was slow going but I got the one half done.
>> With the one prong my passes are about 28 inches apart. The second half
>>
>> was wet so I put it on my 140 hp tractor. I know that was overkill but
>> I
>> thought going slow would be ok; well it wasn't as I broke the subsoiler
>>
>> in half.  I thought I had hit a large rock so I had a backhoe come in
>> to
>> dig it out. Well, there was no rock, the heavy equipment had packed the
>>
>> ground that hard. I haven't fixed the subsoiler yet but I do have the
>> things I need to do it. My point is, big equipment can really pack the
>> soil, and as has been pointed out, I don't think disk type equipment
>> will break up the soil.
>>
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