[AT] OT - Types of gravel

[Mike]

Hi Dean, I didn't discount Hog Fuel, we just don't have it here in this 
part of Michigan. :)

Mike M

On 11/7/2014 1:00 PM, Dean VP wrote:
> Charlie,
>
> >From what I have read the Term "Hog Fuel" probably got its name from a nickname of the grinding
> machine used to create it, a "hammer hog." The word for chopped (hacked) in Norwegian is hogge (hogde
> past tense); chopped wood has been hogde. Hogde fuel likely morphed into hogged fuel invented machine
> that was used to make it. I'm sure that the content varies by area and is composed of whatever
> inexpensive scrap wood product is available locally.  I'm not sure that non-cedar based Hog Fuel would
> be appropriate as I would think it would deteriorate too fast and not have the plant killing
> properties that cedar has.  All I know is it completely transformed the paddock for my wife's horses
> from a muddy mess to a nice dry and somewhat soft and cushioned surface for the horses hoofs. She no
> longer had to worry about hoof rot. WA state is a big logging and wood products area, even though all
> the first growth is gone. The nice thing about wood is it is a renewable resource.  I would hate to
> guess how many area of trees are harvested here every year and then transplanted to be harvested again
> many years out.  Cedar is a very plentiful tree here.
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
>
> The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right time, but also to leave
> unsaid  the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> charlie hill
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 3:29 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Types of gravel
>
> Dean,  I suspect your "hog fuel" is high in cedar content just because you
> have a lot of cedar
> in your area that is used by the timber industry.  Hog fuel here is chipped
> up hard wood and pine
> and it consists of bark, small limbs and other dirty chips that can't be
> used to make paper.
> Therefore it is burned for fuel to power the boiler at the paper mill or at
> our local wood energy plant.
> Based on that I'm thinking "hog fuel" is just a generic name for waste chips
> and wood by products that
> generally get burned.  It might be high in cedar depending on it's location.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean VP
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:09 PM
> To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Types of gravel
>
> Mike,
>
> We use a thing called "Hog Fuel" in our wet paddocks out here in the very
> wet NW part of WA.  Don't
> know if that is appropriate for your local area.  Hog Fuel is quite course
> ground up Cedar wood and
> Bark used for fuel.  When applied fairly thick, several inches deep, it keep
> the horses hoofs dry and
> is also easy on their hoofs.  It used to be fairly inexpensive hear because
> it was not allowed to be
> used for burning due to pollution issues. Now that it is allowed to be
> burned as a fuel it has become
> much more expensive.  Courser than the  ground cedar bark for planting beds.
> Cedar bark and Hog fuel
> is so acidic nothing grows in it so it is a good ground cover.   May not
> even be available in your
> area.
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
>
> The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right
> time, but also to leave
> unsaid  the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Mike
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:14 PM
> To: ATIS
> Subject: [AT] OT - Types of gravel
>
> Hi All, we have a horse paddock that is about 75' x 75'. It is currently
> filled with a mixture of manure and clay about a foot deep. I'm going to
> scrape it clean, and want to replace it with some sort of gravel. The
> choices seem endless depending who I talk to. What I'm looking for is a
> type of mixture that has smooth rather than crushed stone, with a lot of
> fines to help lock it together. Now the exact product I'm looking for
> many not exist, but any help getting me close would be greatly
> appreciated. Just a further note, our paddock has a slight grade to it,
> maybe 2-1/2 to 3 Ft in 75 ft.
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Mike M
>
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