[AT] LED lights

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Thu Nov 13 04:00:19 PST 2014


Time for your friend to go off grid!

I've been wondering lately, given the low price of Natural Gas these days,
if a system with a standby generator charging a battery bank and inverters
would get anywhere close to the price of power from the grid?  I live in an
area with particularly high electric rates.   I'd pay a small premium to be 
able
to tell the power company to stick it.   Of course there is the initial 
investment
in equipment, maintenance and replacement costs but it might be worth it.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Steve W.
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:21 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] LED lights

Dan Glass wrote:
> I will look again even though I do like the cfl's.  In my shop over
> different pieces of equipment I put a bar with four of the 100 watt
> equivalent and it puts out 400 watt equivalent and only draws 100
> watts.  I like lots of light.
> On 11/12/2014 6:07 PM, Steve W. wrote:
>> Dan Glass wrote:
>>> I looked at Lowe's this morning at leds and not only are they $20 for an
>>> 100w equivalent they color temperature is no higher than 3000 degrees.
>>> I use CFL's now that are 5000 degrees and the light is much more
>>> pleasant and easier for me to see with and I can evaluate colors better
>>> with them.  I buy the CFL's are Walmart for about $3 each and the life
>>> is about 9 years.  Until they can raise the color temperature on led's I
>>> am not going to get them even if they are giving them away and use no
>>> electricity at all.
>> Look closer. Lowes sells 4 different color temps in the LED bulbs.
>> I bought some 5000s at the local one yesterday.
>>
>> Pay attention to the packaging as it is the only thing that shows the
>> color temp. On most the colors and labels are the same, just the color
>> temps and equivalent wattages are printed different.
>>
>> And you can generally save money if you buy the non-dimmable bulbs. Here
>> the difference is 3-4 dollars a bulb. If you don't need a dimming light
>> why pay extra?
>>
>
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Same here. Light is a great thing, especially when you're working with
surface mount components or carburetors (diverse interests)

Over my main bench I started with older track lights, adapted those to
the smaller halogen lamps, then to CFL and now LED. The LEDs win hands
down.

Between the shop and the house I replaced around 30 bulbs so far. Have
to replace the 4' fluorescents yet.

1640 watts of incandescents in the house =  115 watts in the LEDs !

One thing I haven't tried yet is to see if the LEDs change the color
balance on film.


Only odd thing that I heard from a friend in Texas. He owns a HUGE old
house. The tree huggers keep screaming about conserving power so he has
been gradually upgrading things to decrease his power/fuel usage. He
upgraded the insulation in places, replaced a lot of the old appliances
and heating gear. He just finished up changing to all CFL lamps
(prepping for LED as the CFLs fail).

He got his recent electric bill and discovered that he was hit with a
"Minimum Usage" surcharge. Called them and was told that due to all the
updates he is no longer using enough electric to avoid the surcharge !!!!!!


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Steve W.
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