[AT] NH vs JD baler

Thu May 29 16:54:59 PDT 2014

Hi Charlie,
My wife and daughter are "horsey girls", and my wife will give our hay 
guy an earful if there are too many light bales. Myself, I don't get 
into the hobby, why you would put yourself on a 1200# animal with a 
"flight" mentality is beyond me. I'll stick to my 4 wheeler.

Mike M

On 5/29/2014 2:48 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> The horse people or as I often affectionately call them "the horsey girls"
> have strange ways of looking at things.  A lady told me once she would
> rather pay more money for a lighter bale, for example $5 for a 30 lb bale
> rather than 4 bucks for a 50 lb bale because she could handle it so much
> easier.  I don't think the logic ever kicked in that she was paying double
> the price per pound.  She probably never considered that the horse was
> getting less hay either.  go figure.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Brians
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:26 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] NH vs JD baler
>
> New Holland balers make the prettiest bales unless they are completely worn
> out. The modern two twine balers are high capacity and use a bit more
> horsepower than the older ones, but are just as reliable. Here in California
> we used to have NO two twine balers, but with the rise of the horse set and
> feed stores wanting tiny weight bales to cater to them now they are here.
>       My advice as a result would be to watch for a newer unit on the used
> market and get it....
>              Grant Brians
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of Cecil R
> Bearden
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:09 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] NH vs JD baler
>
>
> Short hay will give banana shaped bales.  If the spring loaded arm of
> the stuffer forks is in the lowest hole, it should take care of the
> problem.  In a spongy crop, the hay will spring back out of the chamber
> before the plunger has a chance to close the chamber opening..  A dull
> knife or out of adjustment knife will give the same result.  If the
> plunger has roller bearings on the slide, check them for wear.  I have
> replaced bearings with Nylon to save money.  I cannot help with the
> knotter, I have never worked with a twine knotter.  I just bought a 430
> IHC baler with a twine knotter, but have not had the chance to try it
> out.  I have used wire in all my 50 years of farming..   My 440 IHC has
> a wire cutter problem and CIH only wants $1000.00 for the 4 discs I need
> on the cutters..
>
> I bale about 500 bales  every year with a 24W JD my neighbor has. His
> tractor is worn out and I pull it with my Belarus.  It has never been
> rained on.   It has 4 pickup bands missing and is worn out beyond
> description.  However, I adjusted the knife and replaced a couple of
> bushings with nylon and it only missed one bale in 300.  We were baling
> short prairie hay.  I really love that baler, It is so simple.  The only
> problem is the narrow pickup.  I run it at about 50 strokes a minute and
> it works fine.    Until I adjusted the knife, It would shear a pin about
> every 30 bales.
>
> In the fall of 2009 I  had about 40 acres of bermuda hay in windrows.  I
> ran an ad on Craigslist for $5/bale and gave the location  that morning
> at 6am.  I borrowed the baler and started baling about 8am.  At 5pm, I
> had a flat on the tractor.  I had people fighting over  bales, I stated
> first come first served, and they picked it up in the field.  I just
> told them if you want to fight, go out in the road!!!    At the end of
> the day I had $1200 cash in my pocket and checks for another $1500.
>
> I traded for my IHC 440 and baled another 500 bales of prairie hay.  I
> bought a NH hay stacker and then the economy went bust and no one wanted
> square bales.  The horse enthusiasts are what drives the small bales
> here......
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
>
> On 5/26/2014 6:36 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>> Another season of baling has begun with my extremely worn Super 66 New
>> Holland baler. At the end of last year I had a small breakdown and believe
>> the wadboard may be a little out of time, either that or I need to adjust
>> it more. Long story short the baler has always had a tendency to make
>> banana shaped bales and the knot will sometimes fail on one side. I read,
>> researched, printed out, adjusted, filed, polished and lubricated
>> practically everything on this baler----I think it is just plain worn
>> out—we won’t talk about all the new parts I’ve installed in recent years
>> either. No hard feelings against it, it was worn out when I got it 20
>> years ago and I’ve run thousands of bales through it.
>>
>> Looking at getting something a little more reliable and hopefully larger.
>> Looking at a Deere (either 14T or 24T) or a 2xx series New Holland.
>> Opinions?
>>
>> If I had it to do over that great big 3xx series NH hayliner we had would
>> have never been sold at auction.
>>
>> John Hall
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