[AT] NH vs JD baler

Grant Brians sales at heirloom-organic.com
Thu May 29 07:26:48 PDT 2014


New Holland balers make the prettiest bales unless they are completely worn out. The modern two twine balers are high capacity and use a bit more horsepower than the older ones, but are just as reliable. Here in California we used to have NO two twine balers, but with the rise of the horse set and feed stores wanting tiny weight bales to cater to them now they are here.
     My advice as a result would be to watch for a newer unit on the used market and get it....
            Grant Brians

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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of Cecil R
Bearden
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [AT] NH vs JD baler


Short hay will give banana shaped bales.  If the spring loaded arm of 
the stuffer forks is in the lowest hole, it should take care of the 
problem.  In a spongy crop, the hay will spring back out of the chamber 
before the plunger has a chance to close the chamber opening..  A dull 
knife or out of adjustment knife will give the same result.  If the 
plunger has roller bearings on the slide, check them for wear.  I have 
replaced bearings with Nylon to save money.  I cannot help with the 
knotter, I have never worked with a twine knotter.  I just bought a 430 
IHC baler with a twine knotter, but have not had the chance to try it 
out.  I have used wire in all my 50 years of farming..   My 440 IHC has 
a wire cutter problem and CIH only wants $1000.00 for the 4 discs I need 
on the cutters..

I bale about 500 bales  every year with a 24W JD my neighbor has. His 
tractor is worn out and I pull it with my Belarus.  It has never been 
rained on.   It has 4 pickup bands missing and is worn out beyond 
description.  However, I adjusted the knife and replaced a couple of 
bushings with nylon and it only missed one bale in 300.  We were baling 
short prairie hay.  I really love that baler, It is so simple.  The only 
problem is the narrow pickup.  I run it at about 50 strokes a minute and 
it works fine.    Until I adjusted the knife, It would shear a pin about 
every 30 bales.

In the fall of 2009 I  had about 40 acres of bermuda hay in windrows.  I 
ran an ad on Craigslist for $5/bale and gave the location  that morning 
at 6am.  I borrowed the baler and started baling about 8am.  At 5pm, I 
had a flat on the tractor.  I had people fighting over  bales, I stated 
first come first served, and they picked it up in the field.  I just 
told them if you want to fight, go out in the road!!!    At the end of 
the day I had $1200 cash in my pocket and checks for another $1500.

I traded for my IHC 440 and baled another 500 bales of prairie hay.  I 
bought a NH hay stacker and then the economy went bust and no one wanted 
square bales.  The horse enthusiasts are what drives the small bales 
here......

Cecil in OKla



On 5/26/2014 6:36 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
> Another season of baling has begun with my extremely worn Super 66 New Holland baler. At the end of last year I had a small breakdown and believe the wadboard may be a little out of time, either that or I need to adjust it more. Long story short the baler has always had a tendency to make banana shaped bales and the knot will sometimes fail on one side. I read, researched, printed out, adjusted, filed, polished and lubricated practically everything on this baler----I think it is just plain worn out—we won’t talk about all the new parts I’ve installed in recent years either. No hard feelings against it, it was worn out when I got it 20 years ago and I’ve run thousands of bales through it.
>
> Looking at getting something a little more reliable and hopefully larger. Looking at a Deere (either 14T or 24T) or a 2xx series New Holland. Opinions?
>
> If I had it to do over that great big 3xx series NH hayliner we had would have never been sold at auction.
>
> John Hall
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