[AT] NH vs JD baler

[jtchall at nc.rr.com]

I've sharpened and adjusted the knife as best as I can.  The baler works 
much better in wheat straw than in hay. I going to recheck the adjustment 
for the wadboard to make sure I have it correct. I honestly think the baler 
is just too worn out and things are snowballing to create problems. As for 
the knotter, we've set it by the book 10 times over. When it goes to missing 
on that side we squirt some oil on it and the problem quits, Makes no sense 
but if it will bale 100 bales without missing I'm not going to complain. You 
can sink a fortune in a baler real quick replacing parts. Not a good idea on 
a machine that is worn from the tractor hitch to the wagon hitch!
I'm just wanting something that can handle varying crop without trouble--and 
a little faster as well.

Like you said, horse enthusiasts are my customers, you can't give away 
square hay bales to anyone else. I do put up a few hundred bales of wheat 
straw as well.

John


-----Original Message----- 
From: Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:08 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] NH vs JD baler

Short hay will give banana shaped bales.  If the spring loaded arm of
the stuffer forks is in the lowest hole, it should take care of the
problem.  In a spongy crop, the hay will spring back out of the chamber
before the plunger has a chance to close the chamber opening..  A dull
knife or out of adjustment knife will give the same result.  If the
plunger has roller bearings on the slide, check them for wear.  I have
replaced bearings with Nylon to save money.  I cannot help with the
knotter, I have never worked with a twine knotter.  I just bought a 430
IHC baler with a twine knotter, but have not had the chance to try it
out.  I have used wire in all my 50 years of farming..   My 440 IHC has
a wire cutter problem and CIH only wants $1000.00 for the 4 discs I need
on the cutters..

I bale about 500 bales  every year with a 24W JD my neighbor has. His
tractor is worn out and I pull it with my Belarus.  It has never been
rained on.   It has 4 pickup bands missing and is worn out beyond
description.  However, I adjusted the knife and replaced a couple of
bushings with nylon and it only missed one bale in 300.  We were baling
short prairie hay.  I really love that baler, It is so simple.  The only
problem is the narrow pickup.  I run it at about 50 strokes a minute and
it works fine.    Until I adjusted the knife, It would shear a pin about
every 30 bales.

In the fall of 2009 I  had about 40 acres of bermuda hay in windrows.  I
ran an ad on Craigslist for $5/bale and gave the location  that morning
at 6am.  I borrowed the baler and started baling about 8am.  At 5pm, I
had a flat on the tractor.  I had people fighting over  bales, I stated
first come first served, and they picked it up in the field.  I just
told them if you want to fight, go out in the road!!!    At the end of
the day I had $1200 cash in my pocket and checks for another $1500.

I traded for my IHC 440 and baled another 500 bales of prairie hay.  I
bought a NH hay stacker and then the economy went bust and no one wanted
square bales.  The horse enthusiasts are what drives the small bales
here......

Cecil in OKla



On 5/26/2014 6:36 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
> Another season of baling has begun with my extremely worn Super 66 New 
> Holland baler. At the end of last year I had a small breakdown and believe 
> the wadboard may be a little out of time, either that or I need to adjust 
> it more. Long story short the baler has always had a tendency to make 
> banana shaped bales and the knot will sometimes fail on one side. I read, 
> researched, printed out, adjusted, filed, polished and lubricated 
> practically everything on this baler----I think it is just plain worn 
> out—we won’t talk about all the new parts I’ve installed in recent years 
> either. No hard feelings against it, it was worn out when I got it 20 
> years ago and I’ve run thousands of bales through it.
>
> Looking at getting something a little more reliable and hopefully larger. 
> Looking at a Deere (either 14T or 24T) or a 2xx series New Holland. 
> Opinions?
>
> If I had it to do over that great big 3xx series NH hayliner we had would 
> have never been sold at auction.
>
> John Hall
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