[AT] OT - Windows XP - Thanks

Fri Mar 21 08:33:27 PDT 2014

Install "microsoft securities essentials". it's free and is one of the best 
AVs. Do it before April 8 or they won't download it for Win XP after that 
date.
Microsoft has extended the updates and support for this software until 2015 
I believe. Also, you can install free "Malware bytes", it seems to be as 
good as the licenced version
But you have to updat it and run the scan daily yourself.
Check it out.
Skip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike" <meulenms at gmx.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Windows XP - Thanks


> Thank you for all the replies regarding Windows XP. I think I'm going to
> have my Dad stay with it a while and see how it goes. My youngest
> daughter has XP on our old laptop here at home, so if it does get
> problematic, she'll let me know. I'm going to make sure that my Dad's
> account is a limited one, and will make the Admin account have a very
> strong password. Thanks again.
> Mike M
>
> On 3/20/2014 9:36 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>> " I trust MS less than the virus guys."  If this was FaceBook, I'd hit 
>> the
>> Like button :)
>>
>> How true.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dan, And MORE people voted for the current POTUS than for the other
>>> guy. What's your point?
>>>          Dave
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Dan Glass wrote:
>>>
>>>> More people still use XP than use all versions of mac ever made.
>>>> On 3/20/2014 7:45 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>>>>> I use a Mac. Will any of this effect my machine?
>>>>>       Dave
>>>>> PS, I didn't think so--THATS WHY I USE A MAC!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is an excerpt from an email I sent to one of my software 
>>>>>> clients.
>>>>>> They were asking if their custom software program would run on Win8 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> how worried should they be about their XP computers.  I am the IT
>>> manager
>>>>>> for the county I live in. I also own a custom software development
>>> company
>>>>>> with clients in Nebraska and Wisconsin. This is just my opinion, I'm
>>> sure
>>>>>> others will not agree...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My preliminary testing, all 10 minutes worth, didn't see any 
>>>>>> immediate
>>>>>> problems, but all I did was install and run. However, it took some
>>> doing to
>>>>>> get to that point. That is not an endorsement of your custom software
>>>>>> running on Win8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as the XP scare, remember Y2K? I anticipate even fewer 
>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>> I am responsible for 5 servers and almost 175 PC's at the county.  I
>>> still
>>>>>> have a dozen or so XP boxes running and I have no intention of doing
>>>>>> anything with them until they physically break.  Like you, our ISP
>>>>>> (Internet Service Provider) has us hidden behind their firewall.  We
>>> have
>>>>>> up-to-date AV running on all systems.  We also have Barracuda 
>>>>>> WebFilter
>>>>>> covering us. Forgetting about the XP issue, you really should talk to
>>> your
>>>>>> hardware provider about some sort of web filtering.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many XP users have not installed Windows updates in ages. The fact 
>>>>>> the
>>> M$
>>>>>> won't offer support for XP is not all that important, at least to us.
>>>   They
>>>>>> simply won't answer your support questions when you call.  And, the
>>> last
>>>>>> time you spoke with Microsoft about XP was when?  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The AV companies are providing AV for XP.  Why wouldn't they?  Now XP
>>> users
>>>>>> have a real reason to buy & keep their AV up-to-date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until they get Win8 in a usable format for the business community,
>>> we'll
>>>>>> stick with Win7.  All of the PC's I buy are Windows 7 Pro-64/Win8
>>>>>> downgrades. That means that the PC is loaded with Windows 7 Pro 
>>>>>> 64-bit.
>>>>>> They also come with Win8 CD'ds. You own a license for both.  Once 8 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> usable, you'll need to follow the Win8 upgrade procedure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:14 PM, charlie hill <
>>> charliehill at embarqmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>> If it was me I'd make sure I updated XP with all the latest updates,
>>>>>>> patches
>>>>>>> and drivers now and then run it until it won't run any more.   They
>>> aren't
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to somehow cut it off or block it.  They just won't help you with 
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> problems
>>>>>>> any longer and the drivers and updates won't be available most 
>>>>>>> likely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Howard Weeks
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 5:19 PM
>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Windows XP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is more hype than substance!  You should always keep a good virus
>>>>>>> software package installed and updated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I run several machines with XP and I have never allowed MS to update
>>>>>>> anything on them since since new.  Never had a problem either!  I
>>> trust
>>>>>>> MS less than the virus guys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the virus software producers drop support for XP, that would be a
>>>>>>> bigger problem. By the time that happens, the hacks will have moved 
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> to whatever the MS followers are running.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will still be running XP in parallel with Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Howard in GA
>>>>>>> On 3/20/2014 11:53 AM, Mike wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi guys, sorry for the OT post, but I know there are a few guys on
>>> here
>>>>>>>> that are up on the latest IT stuff. Long story short, my Dad read 
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> article by Kim Komando in last Sundays paper regarding the end of
>>>>>>>> Microsoft's support for Windows XP on April 14th. The article
>>> basically
>>>>>>>> stated that if you haven't already, you should drop XP like a hot
>>> potato
>>>>>>>> and migrate to Windows 7 or 8 because it will become very 
>>>>>>>> vulnerable
>>> to
>>>>>>>> attack.  His machine is an older Dell that won't support Windows 7,
>>> so
>>>>>>>> the only option is a new computer. Are these security concerns more
>>> hype
>>>>>>>> than substance, or are they legitimate concerns? Thanks for any
>>> advice
>>>>>>>> offered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>>>
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