[AT] OT - Windows XP

Thu Mar 20 18:26:23 PDT 2014

That is not true.

Dean VP
Apache Junction, AZ

" . . . The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the
blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure . . . " Jefferson

-----Original Message-----
From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:01 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Windows XP

Hi Dan, And MORE people voted for the current POTUS than for the other guy.
What's your point?
	Dave

On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Dan Glass wrote:

> More people still use XP than use all versions of mac ever made.
> On 3/20/2014 7:45 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>> I use a Mac. Will any of this effect my machine?
>> 	Dave
>> PS, I didn't think so--THATS WHY I USE A MAC!
>> 
>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>> 
>>> Here is an excerpt from an email I sent to one of my software clients.
>>> They were asking if their custom software program would run on Win8 
>>> and how worried should they be about their XP computers.  I am the 
>>> IT manager for the county I live in. I also own a custom software 
>>> development company with clients in Nebraska and Wisconsin. This is 
>>> just my opinion, I'm sure others will not agree...
>>> 
>>> My preliminary testing, all 10 minutes worth, didn't see any 
>>> immediate problems, but all I did was install and run. However, it 
>>> took some doing to get to that point. That is not an endorsement of 
>>> your custom software running on Win8.
>>> 
>>> As far as the XP scare, remember Y2K? I anticipate even fewer problems.
>>> I am responsible for 5 servers and almost 175 PC's at the county.  I 
>>> still have a dozen or so XP boxes running and I have no intention of 
>>> doing anything with them until they physically break.  Like you, our 
>>> ISP (Internet Service Provider) has us hidden behind their firewall.  
>>> We have up-to-date AV running on all systems.  We also have 
>>> Barracuda WebFilter covering us. Forgetting about the XP issue, you 
>>> really should talk to your hardware provider about some sort of web
filtering.
>>> 
>>> Many XP users have not installed Windows updates in ages. The fact 
>>> the M$ won't offer support for XP is not all that important, at 
>>> least to us.  They simply won't answer your support questions when 
>>> you call.  And, the last time you spoke with Microsoft about XP was 
>>> when?  :)
>>> 
>>> The AV companies are providing AV for XP.  Why wouldn't they?  Now 
>>> XP users have a real reason to buy & keep their AV up-to-date.
>>> 
>>> Until they get Win8 in a usable format for the business community, 
>>> we'll stick with Win7.  All of the PC's I buy are Windows 7 
>>> Pro-64/Win8 downgrades. That means that the PC is loaded with Windows 7
Pro 64-bit.
>>> They also come with Win8 CD'ds. You own a license for both.  Once 8 
>>> is usable, you'll need to follow the Win8 upgrade procedure.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:14 PM, charlie hill
<charliehill at embarqmail.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If it was me I'd make sure I updated XP with all the latest 
>>>> updates, patches
>>>> and drivers now and then run it until it won't run any more.   They
aren't
>>>> going
>>>> to somehow cut it off or block it.  They just won't help you with 
>>>> your problems any longer and the drivers and updates won't be 
>>>> available most likely.
>>>> 
>>>> Charlie
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Howard Weeks
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 5:19 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Windows XP
>>>> 
>>>> It is more hype than substance!  You should always keep a good 
>>>> virus software package installed and updated.
>>>> 
>>>> I run several machines with XP and I have never allowed MS to 
>>>> update anything on them since since new.  Never had a problem 
>>>> either!  I trust MS less than the virus guys.
>>>> 
>>>> If the virus software producers drop support for XP, that would be 
>>>> a bigger problem. By the time that happens, the hacks will have 
>>>> moved on to whatever the MS followers are running.
>>>> 
>>>> I will still be running XP in parallel with Linux.
>>>> 
>>>> Howard in GA
>>>> On 3/20/2014 11:53 AM, Mike wrote:
>>>>> Hi guys, sorry for the OT post, but I know there are a few guys on 
>>>>> here that are up on the latest IT stuff. Long story short, my Dad 
>>>>> read an article by Kim Komando in last Sundays paper regarding the 
>>>>> end of Microsoft's support for Windows XP on April 14th. The 
>>>>> article basically stated that if you haven't already, you should 
>>>>> drop XP like a hot potato and migrate to Windows 7 or 8 because it 
>>>>> will become very vulnerable to attack.  His machine is an older 
>>>>> Dell that won't support Windows 7, so the only option is a new 
>>>>> computer. Are these security concerns more hype than substance, or 
>>>>> are they legitimate concerns? Thanks for any advice offered.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike M
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