[AT] The terror strikes again. - 4WD

[Stephen Offiler]

Indeed.  Sorry.  Missed that.

I don't disagree that government mandates have created ENORMOUS changes in
emission controls, braking and stability controls, tire pressure
monitoring, crash impact protection, fuel economy...  so in these respects
sure, manufacturers are indeed building what GOVERNMENT wants.  Since they
still manage to sell the vehicles there must be something in there that the
customer wants.

Again:  it ain't easy being a car manufacturer...

SO



On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Dan Glass <dglass at numail.org> wrote:

> I said what the customer wants, not what a customer wants.
>
> On 6/9/2014 10:45 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> > Customer - singular?  It's REALLY hard to make a vehicle for a single
> > customer, but that's what the options list is for.  They do *try* to make
> > what customers (plural) want.  The whole group of prospective customers,
> > taken on average.  It ain't easy... I guess that's my main point.
> >
> > SO
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Dan Glass <dglass at numail.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I not sure manufacturers have made what the customer wants for many
> >> years.  They pretty much make what the government mandates.
> >> On 6/9/2014 9:59 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> >>> The majority of the dealer profit comes from the sales of service,
> parts,
> >>> and accessories.  They make very little on the sale of the vehicle
> >> itself.
> >>>    And they can only sell what the manufacturer designs and builds.
>  The
> >>> manufacturer designs and builds what they perceive the customers want.
>  I
> >>> just checked real quick, only Chevy, and found they still have a 2500HD
> >>> Work Truck that is pretty basic.  Vinyl seats, steel wheels,
> hose-em-out
> >>> vinyl instead of carpeting.  It does have a tach and cruise control
> and a
> >>> radio, but the cab is far from "stuffed with crap".  They exist.
> >>>
> >>> SO
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:26 AM, <Recentjester at aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Always figured that a dealership was just a big lot where they  dumped
> >> the
> >>>> trucks along a major freeway to sell them. the service or warranty
>  area
> >>>> was
> >>>> never big enough to do much more than change your oil. The object of a
> >>>> truck is to get a heavy load where its going. I own a truck to bring
> >> things
> >>>> home  to make myself more self sustainable. I don't need a bunch of
> >> bells
> >>>> an
> >>>> whistles.  All the crap they want to stuff into the cab does not
> impress
> >>>> me.
> >>>> The Pickups  look so big now but they have less room in the bed.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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