[AT] The terror strikes again. - 4WD

[Mike]

Govt tinkering is what sucked all the fuel mileage out of diesel 
pickups.  Our farrier had an older Dodge with a Cummins that averages 
around 15-17 mpg pulling his trailer. It finally gave up the ghost at 
around 390,000 miles, so he got a newer Ford F-250 with the 6.0 diesel. 
His fuel mileage on that truck was around 10-11 mpg.  It probably burned 
a little cleaner that his old Dodge, but he's burning almost twice the 
fuel.

Mike M






On 6/9/2014 11:09 AM, Dan Glass wrote:
> I said what the customer wants, not what a customer wants.
>
> On 6/9/2014 10:45 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> Customer - singular?  It's REALLY hard to make a vehicle for a single
>> customer, but that's what the options list is for.  They do *try* to make
>> what customers (plural) want.  The whole group of prospective customers,
>> taken on average.  It ain't easy... I guess that's my main point.
>>
>> SO
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Dan Glass <dglass at numail.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I not sure manufacturers have made what the customer wants for many
>>> years.  They pretty much make what the government mandates.
>>> On 6/9/2014 9:59 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>>> The majority of the dealer profit comes from the sales of service, parts,
>>>> and accessories.  They make very little on the sale of the vehicle
>>> itself.
>>>>     And they can only sell what the manufacturer designs and builds.  The
>>>> manufacturer designs and builds what they perceive the customers want.  I
>>>> just checked real quick, only Chevy, and found they still have a 2500HD
>>>> Work Truck that is pretty basic.  Vinyl seats, steel wheels, hose-em-out
>>>> vinyl instead of carpeting.  It does have a tach and cruise control and a
>>>> radio, but the cab is far from "stuffed with crap".  They exist.
>>>>
>>>> SO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:26 AM, <Recentjester at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Always figured that a dealership was just a big lot where they  dumped
>>> the
>>>>> trucks along a major freeway to sell them. the service or warranty  area
>>>>> was
>>>>> never big enough to do much more than change your oil. The object of a
>>>>> truck is to get a heavy load where its going. I own a truck to bring
>>> things
>>>>> home  to make myself more self sustainable. I don't need a bunch of
>>> bells
>>>>> an
>>>>> whistles.  All the crap they want to stuff into the cab does not impress
>>>>> me.
>>>>> The Pickups  look so big now but they have less room in the bed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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