[AT] The terror strikes again. - 4WD

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Fri Jun 6 05:22:23 PDT 2014


Charlie, I solved the weather problem (of ever "needing" 4  wheel drive) by 
mov'in to Texas. My 80 Chev 3/4 to 350cu.in 2wd goes where I  need to go. 
Rear wheel disc brakes and mandatory insurance is what makes things  "get 
touchy" Those two factors make "me" people crawl right up your butt an this  
causes a lot of multi car collisons.  U get 4-wheel Diesel truck off  the road 
an u need a tractor to get it out. They are two heavy to go off on  Gumbo 
clay where u don't belong in wet weather
 
 
In a message dated 6/5/2014 11:59:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
charliehill at embarqmail.com writes:

Grant  you need to drive a newer 4 wd vehicle.
Mine is an 06 GMC Sierra crew  cab.  It weighs in at
about 5,000 lbs.  Except for getting into  and out of
tight parking spaces it drives and rides as good as
a full  size sedan.  It gets around 20 mpg on the highway.
My overall average  fuel economy is about 17.5 over the life
of the truck and that includes a  fair amount of towing.
The 4 WD is controlled by a switch on the  dash.  You run
in 2 wd.  If things get touchy you can hit the  switch to put it
in Auto 4 wd and it selects 4 wd if it needs it or you can  hit
the button for full time 4 wd.  You do this on the fly  without
slowing down, stopping or putting the transmission in  neutral.
The only time you have to stop to shift is if you need to go  into
4wd low range.

The front suspension is independent like the  rear suspension on
a Corvette or a typical front wheel drive sedan with  short stub axles from
the transfer case to the front wheels.  210,000  miles and I've had
only very minor problems with the entire  truck.

There is nothing wrong with 2WD but there is also no down side  to modern
4 WD except for the up front  cost.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Grant  Brians
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:08 PM
To: Antique tractor email  discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] The terror strikes again. - 4WD

I  fall into the category of the "2WD supporters", but for exactly the  
reason
Steve cites - I don't drive in snow or other conditions where it  would be
useful! Once in a while we get snow in the Mountain valley ranch,  and there
is frequently ice on the pass in the winter, but then we almost  always have
enough weight to compensate. Also, while I did finally buy a  4WD Dodge last
year for wet conditions around the fields (1980 3/4 ton -  boy it drives 
like
an OLD truck...), it was not intended for road use  really. As a result, I
can say that as the old internet meme goes YMMV your  mileage may vary! LOL.
Grant Brians
Hollister,California Farmer

-----Original  Message-----
From:  at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On  Behalf Of Stephen
Offiler
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 5:13 AM
To:  Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] The terror strikes  again. - Studebaker speed response


(replying to Charlie's note with  a lot of snipping...)

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:27 PM, charlie hill  <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
wrote:

> john I put some  weight in the rear of my 4 WD truck if possible but
> usually not more  than 200 or 300 lbs.


I usually don't add weight, and the reason why  not is because my truck is
not a daily driver; it comes out when I need to  haul something meaning I
generally need the bed to be free of dead-weight  obstructions; and
otherwise it comes out when the snow is really  bad.



>  I know those who don't have 4 WD or
>  don't want 4 WD or just don't believe in it for one reason or  another
don't
> want
> to hear this but there really is a  dramatic difference when driving in
snow
> or
> anything else  slick or deep.



This is really the part I wanted to focus  us.  YES!  It's just a fact.  The
2WD supporters have found  that it works for them, but clearly they aren't
taking their trucks into  some of the same situations as Charlie and I  have
described.

SO
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