[AT] The terror strikes again. - Studebaker speed response

Tue Jun 3 08:25:24 PDT 2014

No need to be sorry, Steve.  All the hot air you are pushing has not
changed my thinking or past experience.  Anyone can toss 75,000 dollar
Corvettes around but that does not make my '95 Chev 3/4 ton 4x4 stop in any
shorter distance.  After the third time I nearly rear ended a stopped car
at a signal light I pulled the fuse from the fuse for the abs. Even the
mech's at the garage where I go advised that move. A driver could break his
leg pushing the brake pedal while the vehicle just keeps rollong along as
if a 10,000 lb. load was pushing it.  I will add that I do not habitually
over drive my brakes.  Longer stopping distances were typical with some
early abs systems.

I do own newer vehicles and drive some others.  Yes, they do work better.
I think perhaps one time I have felt the anti locks kick in in 30,000 miles
in my SUV and we do get a lot of winter here.

I will go so far as to bet you would have gotten to work on those bad days
last February even if you had not bought the '13 VW.  Soo.     Nice.
Probably.    Just can't live without it and an extra few grand on the
price???????  Now that is government at work.

Charlie V.

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just bought a used '13 VW Jetta Sportwagen and it's my first car with
> traction control.  I got it in early February of this year and I had ample
> opportunity to drive it on snow and ice covered roads while the car was
> still unfamiliar to me.  We had some days in February that were so cold
> (Ralph kind of cold, negative degrees Fahrenheit) that salt cannot melt the
> ice, so I had a few rides to work that were literally on ice-COVERED roads,
> not just a phrase.
>
> I was AMAZED at what the traction and stability control can do.  I clearly
> wasn't out there driving like a moron, but we have lots of hills and curves
> where I live, and it felt like I was driving an all-wheel-drive vehicle.
>
> Tires, suspension, and electronic aids today are orders of magnitude beyond
> those bias-ply tires on that Studebaker.  Sorry Charlie V but it's just a
> fact.
>
> SO
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Henry Miller <hank at millerfarm.com> wrote:
>
> > On June 2, 2014 10:13:59 PM CDT, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
> > >Anti-lock brakes will definitely stop you faster, and along with
> > >stability control, makes for a safer vehicle. Traction control is a
> > >whole different story. My wife needs to turns hers off to avoid getting
> > >
> > >stuck in deep snow, it won't allow any wheels spin, and you lose
> > >momentum.
> > >
> > >Mike M
> > >
> > >On 6/2/2014 10:52 PM, Charlie V wrote:
> > >> Just saying, Steve, bias ply tires and drum breaks were not that bad.
> > > I
> > >> sure put on a lot of (luckily) accident free miles with that type
> > >equipment
> > >> as did many other folks.  I am not convinced the anti lock breaking
> > >systems
> > >> are all they are cracked up to be either.
> > >>
> > >> Grant:  My '47 Studebaker champion with overdrive would touch a
> > >dollar bill
> > >> on a good day but it needed a good two miles of road and zero
> > >headwind to
> > >> creep it up there.  Tested it out the first day I got it on the road
> > >at 16
> > >> years old. (Me for the 16.  the car was just slightly younger.)
> > >>
> > >> Charlie V.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> On 6/2/2014 10:20 AM, Grant Brians wrote:
> > >>>>> Ralph, that is why I got all of my need for speed out when I was
> > >>> younger
> > >>>> in my Studebaker cars.... 125mph between the farm fields where
> > >there were
> > >>>> no police, houses or cross traffic and a three mile straightaway is
> > >>>> enjoyable in a Gran Turismo Hawk.
> > >>>>
> > >>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Grant, at least you would not have been talking or texting on a
> > >cell
> > >>>> phone while driving that speed in those times.
> > >>>
> > >>> Very true, Ralph!  But on the downside, he was doing it on skinny
> > >bias-ply
> > >>> tires and drum brakes!
> > >>>
> > >>> SO
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> > It very much depends on which car you have. For a long time I thought
> > traction control was great and why would anyone not want it all the time.
> > Then I went looking for a car for my wife and found most of them as bad
> as
> > you say.
> >
> > I endorse traction control on my vw, and anything with a similar system.
> I
> > have no use for it elsewhere.
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