[AT] The terror strikes again. - Studebaker speed response

Cecil R Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Tue Jun 3 06:30:17 PDT 2014


I keep Harbor freight in business... At least 10 rolls every time I go 
in there....

Cecil in oKla






On 6/3/2014 8:15 AM, R Fink Sr wrote:
>     Cecil did you not know that is why they uped production of black
>     electric tape
>     R Fink
>     PA
>
>
>     On 06/03/14, Cecil R Bearden<crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>
>     All the new technology available on the new models are great for an old
>     timer who still knows how to drive in bad weather.
>     However, after this stuff gets to be 10 years old, keeping it
>     working is a constant nightmare. I don't have an antilock brake system
>     on any of my vehicles that works. I have spent thousands of dollars to
>     replace systems and after 6 months to a year, the light is back on the
>     dash. I just gave up and put a piece of tape over the light.!!
>     Personally I am sick to death of these disposable cars and trucks.
>     Cecil in OKla
>     On 6/3/2014 7:44 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>     > Yeah, that'll work, Charlie! And if you want to find out what modern
>     tires
>     > and suspension can do, try your test on a curvy road!
>     >
>     >
>     > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:36 AM, charlie hill
>     <[1]charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >> If you want to find out what traction control can do, get ahold of
>     >> someone's late model Corvette, stand up on the gas pedal and
>     >> hang on.
>     >>
>     >> Charlie
>     >>
>     >> -----Original Message-----
>     >> From: Stephen Offiler
>     >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:23 AM
>     >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>     >> Subject: Re: [AT] The terror strikes again. - Studebaker speed
>     response
>     >>
>     >> I just bought a used '13 VW Jetta Sportwagen and it's my first car
>     with
>     >> traction control. I got it in early February of this year and I had
>     ample
>     >> opportunity to drive it on snow and ice covered roads while the car
>     was
>     >> still unfamiliar to me. We had some days in February that were so
>     cold
>     >> (Ralph kind of cold, negative degrees Fahrenheit) that salt cannot
>     melt the
>     >> ice, so I had a few rides to work that were literally on ice-COVERED
>     roads,
>     >> not just a phrase.
>     >>
>     >> I was AMAZED at what the traction and stability control can do. I
>     clearly
>     >> wasn't out there driving like a moron, but we have lots of hills and
>     curves
>     >> where I live, and it felt like I was driving an all-wheel-drive
>     vehicle.
>     >>
>     >> Tires, suspension, and electronic aids today are orders of magnitude
>     beyond
>     >> those bias-ply tires on that Studebaker. Sorry Charlie V but it's
>     just a
>     >> fact.
>     >>
>     >> SO
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Henry Miller
>     <[2]hank at millerfarm.com> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> On June 2, 2014 10:13:59 PM CDT, Mike <[3]meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>     >>>> Anti-lock brakes will definitely stop you faster, and along with
>     >>>> stability control, makes for a safer vehicle. Traction control is
>     a
>     >>>> whole different story. My wife needs to turns hers off to avoid
>     getting
>     >>>>
>     >>>> stuck in deep snow, it won't allow any wheels spin, and you lose
>     >>>> momentum.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Mike M
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On 6/2/2014 10:52 PM, Charlie V wrote:
>     >>>>> Just saying, Steve, bias ply tires and drum breaks were not that
>     bad.
>     >>>> I
>     >>>>> sure put on a lot of (luckily) accident free miles with that type
>     >>>> equipment
>     >>>>> as did many other folks. I am not convinced the anti lock
>     breaking
>     >>>> systems
>     >>>>> are all they are cracked up to be either.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Grant: My '47 Studebaker champion with overdrive would touch a
>     >>>> dollar bill
>     >>>>> on a good day but it needed a good two miles of road and zero
>     >>>> headwind to
>     >>>>> creep it up there. Tested it out the first day I got it on the
>     road
>     >>>> at 16
>     >>>>> years old. (Me for the 16. the car was just slightly younger.)
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Charlie V.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Stephen Offiler
>     <[4]soffiler at gmail.com>
>     >>>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>> On 6/2/2014 10:20 AM, Grant Brians wrote:
>     >>>>>>>> Ralph, that is why I got all of my need for speed out when I
>     was
>     >>>>>> younger
>     >>>>>>> in my Studebaker cars.... 125mph between the farm fields where
>     >>>> there were
>     >>>>>>> no police, houses or cross traffic and a three mile
>     straightaway is
>     >>>>>>> enjoyable in a Gran Turismo Hawk.
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Ralph Goff <[5]alfg at sasktel.net>
>     wrote:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> Grant, at least you would not have been talking or texting on a
>     >>>> cell
>     >>>>>>> phone while driving that speed in those times.
>     >>>>>> Very true, Ralph! But on the downside, he was doing it on skinny
>     >>>> bias-ply
>     >>>>>> tires and drum brakes!
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> SO
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>     >>> It very much depends on which car you have. For a long time I
>     thought
>     >>> traction control was great and why would anyone not want it all the
>     time.
>     >>> Then I went looking for a car for my wife and found most of them as
>     bad
>     >> as
>     >>> you say.
>     >>>
>     >>> I endorse traction control on my vw, and anything with a similar
>     system.
>     >> I
>     >>> have no use for it elsewhere.
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