[AT] here I go again

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Wed Jul 30 03:18:10 PDT 2014


Not much to tell Tyler.  It was just worn out.  The motor compression
was so weak that they had to pull it round and round the barn yard
with the Super A in high gear to get it started.  After several laps around
the yard it would light off.  Then they left it running until they were
through with it.  When it sat and ran idle it blew smoke rings out
the exhaust stack one behind the other.  The old man would tell folks
not to put any oil in it until it stopped smoking and then add 1 quart.
He didn't fix it because he didn't have the money.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tyler Juranek
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:24 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] here I go again

Charly,
Tell us all about the worn out A! I like hearing stories about those
old tractors.
Thanks,
Tyler Juranek

On 7/29/14, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Not seeing the tractor, I didn't know if it had an earlier "restoration"
> that
> might have the wrong decals.  Sounds like you have it figured out.  I've
> been
> around A's and Super A's all of my life but when that one was new I was
> almost
> new myself and don't remember the details.  I don't know where Al Jones is
> lately.
> He's the ATIS, small farmall expert.  I'm pretty sure he could tell you
> about the history
> of the shafts.
>
> You are right, tending big acreage one row at a time won't work today but
> you'd be
> surprised what we did with one row tractors in the S/E tobacco country. 
> My
>
> dad and
> I tended about 50 acres one year with a D-10 Allis with a 2 bottom 14" 
> plow
>
> and a 16
> blade disc harrow.  We spent a lot of time in the seat.   One of my 
> friends
>
> was the
> youngest son of a tenant farmer.  He had a Super A and a completely worn 
> out
>
> A.
> They tended close to 100 acres including about about 15 acres of tobacco.
> When it was
> time to break the tobacco ground with the bottom plows they worked in
> shifts, 24 hours a
> day until it was done.  The old man and 3 sons on two tractors.  The cost 
> of
>
> fuel and labor
> would make that impossible now particularly with gasoline powered 
> tractors.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Cook
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 10:33 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] here I go again
>
> Charlie,
>      Excellent idea, but decals???  This is a Farmall.  Just like all
> old Farmalls in this part of the world.  It is brown.  The red left
> years ago, as did the decals.  Not unlike my 1566 which is 40 years old
> and 22 years newer than the Super A.
>      But, seriously, the serial number and casting numbers make it a
> 1952 Super A.  With the exception of the car tires on the front, it is a
> completely unmolested tractor.  All original, including the finish,
> wherever it is.  I have no doubt this tractor has always had the small
> pto shaft, or very nearly always.  I have found the shafts are
> interchangeable and the same from the A through the later off-sets and
> even into some of the row crop tractors such as the 240 and 300.  I
> think my 340 is different and that may be because of the live pto.  IH
> made really good use of that part.
>       Most of the little Farmalls in this part of the country are B's,
> or Cubs.  The Cubs were for packing listed corn and the B's were
> cultivator tractors and they both left for Minnesota in the sixties.  An
> A is a rarity as there really are no vegetable farms and for sure no
> tobacco farms and they do not go narrow enough for the corn packing
> duty.  Allis Chalmers B was the tractor of choice for that job and there
> are several in the area.  I spent many hours on an Allis B packing corn
> and disliked every minute.
>      Farming one row at a time just will not work out on a quarter
> section, and not very well on an 80.  Too little daylight.  I have a
> friend with a B from his home area of south central Iowa that has the
> small pto shaft and a farmer I used to haul grain for ran an auger with
> a B that had the larger shaft.  Nearly identical tractors otherwise,
> however I do not know the serial numbers of either.  Both with the
> exhaust driven lift system.  Those little tractors were in this part of
> Iowa as a result of WWII.  A tractor was needed and that is what was
> available.  The M, H, and C  and their Supers, were the majority of
> Farmalls. to be found.  They replaced the Regulars and F-20's after WWII.
>
> Ron Cook
> Salix, IA
> On 7/29/2014 5:53 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>> Might be time to check some serial numbers and casting numbers
>> and make sure it is a Super A and not an A with Super A decals.
>> Or is it possible that a used rear casting from an A has been
>> used to replace the Super A rear casting.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
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