[AT] here I go again

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Tue Jul 29 17:58:06 PDT 2014


Not seeing the tractor, I didn't know if it had an earlier "restoration" 
that
might have the wrong decals.  Sounds like you have it figured out.  I've 
been
around A's and Super A's all of my life but when that one was new I was 
almost
new myself and don't remember the details.  I don't know where Al Jones is 
lately.
He's the ATIS, small farmall expert.  I'm pretty sure he could tell you 
about the history
of the shafts.

You are right, tending big acreage one row at a time won't work today but 
you'd be
surprised what we did with one row tractors in the S/E tobacco country.  My 
dad and
I tended about 50 acres one year with a D-10 Allis with a 2 bottom 14" plow 
and a 16
blade disc harrow.  We spent a lot of time in the seat.   One of my friends 
was the
youngest son of a tenant farmer.  He had a Super A and a completely worn out 
A.
They tended close to 100 acres including about about 15 acres of tobacco. 
When it was
time to break the tobacco ground with the bottom plows they worked in 
shifts, 24 hours a
day until it was done.  The old man and 3 sons on two tractors.  The cost of 
fuel and labor
would make that impossible now particularly with gasoline powered tractors.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ron Cook
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 10:33 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] here I go again

Charlie,
     Excellent idea, but decals???  This is a Farmall.  Just like all
old Farmalls in this part of the world.  It is brown.  The red left
years ago, as did the decals.  Not unlike my 1566 which is 40 years old
and 22 years newer than the Super A.
     But, seriously, the serial number and casting numbers make it a
1952 Super A.  With the exception of the car tires on the front, it is a
completely unmolested tractor.  All original, including the finish,
wherever it is.  I have no doubt this tractor has always had the small
pto shaft, or very nearly always.  I have found the shafts are
interchangeable and the same from the A through the later off-sets and
even into some of the row crop tractors such as the 240 and 300.  I
think my 340 is different and that may be because of the live pto.  IH
made really good use of that part.
      Most of the little Farmalls in this part of the country are B's,
or Cubs.  The Cubs were for packing listed corn and the B's were
cultivator tractors and they both left for Minnesota in the sixties.  An
A is a rarity as there really are no vegetable farms and for sure no
tobacco farms and they do not go narrow enough for the corn packing
duty.  Allis Chalmers B was the tractor of choice for that job and there
are several in the area.  I spent many hours on an Allis B packing corn
and disliked every minute.
     Farming one row at a time just will not work out on a quarter
section, and not very well on an 80.  Too little daylight.  I have a
friend with a B from his home area of south central Iowa that has the
small pto shaft and a farmer I used to haul grain for ran an auger with
a B that had the larger shaft.  Nearly identical tractors otherwise,
however I do not know the serial numbers of either.  Both with the
exhaust driven lift system.  Those little tractors were in this part of
Iowa as a result of WWII.  A tractor was needed and that is what was
available.  The M, H, and C  and their Supers, were the majority of
Farmalls. to be found.  They replaced the Regulars and F-20's after WWII.

Ron Cook
Salix, IA
On 7/29/2014 5:53 AM, charlie hill wrote:
> Might be time to check some serial numbers and casting numbers
> and make sure it is a Super A and not an A with Super A decals.
> Or is it possible that a used rear casting from an A has been
> used to replace the Super A rear casting.
>
> Charlie
>

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