[AT] Bin fishing...

[Herb Metz]

Yes,
They ran low on fuel because the typhoon was long lived; finally they had no 
choice but to empty the salt water ballast from the empty fuel oil tanks so 
they could come alongside some big ship for refueling. Three sank (790 men 
lost and 80 injured) and many other ships were badly damaged.  From then on 
the rule (maybe it was just SOP - Standard Operating Procedures) was, 
regardless of weather one refueled when down to half full.  When I was in, a 
decade later, I was not aware of above, and commented one day about our 
refueling when the seas were very calm and was briefly told of above and 
that there were "no exceptions".  Herb

-----Original Message----- 
From: Al Jones
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 5:36 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Bin fishing...

I remember reading about the big typhoon in the S. Pacific in 1944 that 
naval Task Force 58/38 ran right through the middle of.  Several destroyers 
sank during that storm.

Al


-----Original Message-----
>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Jan 11, 2014 12:15 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] Bin fishing...
>
>My uncle, who was a medic in the Army, was on his way home from WWII
>aboard a destroyer.   He said the last day before they got in to New York
>they ran into a storm.  When they went to bed that night they were steaming
>full ahead.  The next morning the captain announced that they were still
>steaming full ahead but were being pushed back by the seas and were some
>fair distance further from New York than they had been 8 hours before.
>
>Charlie
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 12:04 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] Bin fishing...
>
>Never met a commercial fisherman but have known some old time Navy guys. 
>One
>fellow told me about a storm they hit that was so bad that a lot the 
>fellows
>that had been in the Navy for a while got seasick, practically all the
>younger guys did. He was a machinist and told me the stock racks in the
>machine shop failed to hold the stock secure. While the matl was bouncing
>around on the floor it managed to take out a couple pieces of equipment. I
>don't know what size ship he was on at the time, he served on everything
>from subs to carriers.
>
>John Hall
>
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Herb Metz
>Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:26 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] Bin fishing...
>
>This same(?) u-tube was around 6 or 8 months ago, and was (supposedly) shot
>where Columbia river enters into Pacific.  Regardless of when and where 
>most
>commercial fishing is a tough, and many times, a dangerous way of making a
>living.  I have not been there and done that but have experienced quite
>similar situations; five weeks on a destroyer in North Atlantic, on duty on
>the bridge when we did several rolls of 45 degrees or more (at which time 
>it
>is easier to walk up the wall than it is to walk up the floor).  And at
>other times the bow would come out of the water so high that when it came
>down and hit the ocean water it just smacked very loud and caused huge
>shuddering vibrations traveling throughout the ship. I found these
>vibrations more concerning than the 45 degree rolls.   We were doing 
>wartime
>training exercises with couple dozen ships so did not have the option of
>course or speed.
>Later on went through two separate hurricanes where we had option of course
>and speed; no big concerns.  This was 1954-55, long before TV having todays
>good radar.
>
>
>
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