[AT] Oliver production numbers

Wed Dec 24 12:02:02 PST 2014

Yeah the Oliver would have been expensive to say the least. The rear tire 
situation is what made me bail out on it. I'm thinking I have seen new 40" 
tires available in recent years but 20 years ago good used ones sold for a 
fortune. There are basically no Olivers around here and the internet wasn't 
like it is today so I never could determine if I could substitute other rear 
wheels. Other than missing the side shields and being completely rusty, the 
hood and grille were nearly perfect. For whatever reason, tractors in the 
South used to be pretty well banged up, I think this had a lot to do with 
using so many hired hands and small fields bordered by trees or that you 
literally had to drive through the woods to get to. I bought this tractor 
and an ID9 International in about the same shape for a whopping $45. Paid 
about $50 for a roll back to haul them home. Sold the Oliver for $175 to a 
guy restoring one and the ID9 for $300 to a different fellow that was 
collecting some ID and WD9 models. I never put either tractor back together 
once we found the blocks were busted. I spent considerable time trying to 
find a way to get the ID9 running but a good engine/block wasn't going to be 
cheap nor that easy to find. Plus it needed a grill and rear tires. I wanted 
to also add a hydraulic pump so I could use it on the farm. Bottom line is 
it was going to cost more than I could buy a running tractor for, and buying 
running old tractors has never been my style. Regardless, I got the thrill 
of finding, hauling home, and tearing into some old iron, not to mention 
seeing to it that each would be used in a restoration instead of a foreign 
car.

John

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tyler Juranek
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:51 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Oliver production numbers

Hi John,
Honestly, I'm not sure about the MTA. It was still at the home place
when Great Grandpa passed away in 86. Grandpa's brother eventually
ended up with the place, and I never have heard about that MTA.
Grandpa says it should be over there, but nobody knows.
Don passed away in May.
I would sure like to buy that 88 my grandfather taught me to drive,
but with my father collecting Cockshutt's now, he won't let me have
another spot in the shed! (grin)
That 70 of yours sounds like you would've had your work cut out for
you, and your billfold empty if you would've restored that thing! Wow!
I don't think that Grandpa's unstyled 70 has lights, but it does have
a starter. It's 6 volt. Not sure if they made a 12 volt conversion for
that or not.
Do you own any Olivers now?
Take Care,
Tyler Juranek

On 12/23/14, jtchall at nc.rr.com <jtchall at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Not boring at all! Glad to hear he's still got some old iron earning its
> keep. So what about the MTA, still have that one too? I had a 70 for a
> while.  I literally saved it from the scrap yard. The engine was locked 
> up.
>
> When we pulled the head there were about 3 splits between the cylinders. 
> And
>
> it had 40" rear tires, neither of which were any good.  And it was missing
> the engine side panels. I sold it as a parts tractor.
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tyler Juranek
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:17 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Oliver production numbers
>
> Hi John and all,
> Thanks for the info John. I have had an interest in Olivers for
> awhile. My Great Grandfather, (the same one that had the JD a that I
> own) also had Olivers. He had a 70 that he bought new in 1935, and
> then an 88 later on. My grandfather remembers going to the dealership
> in 1948 and purchasing the 88 with my Great Grandfather.
> He said that they walked into the building, and they had to walk up
> to a 2nd story inside. They looked at a 66, 77, and an 88. He said
> that Great Grandpa decided to go with the 88.
> They moved the tractor down to the main floor with a hoist of some
> sort. He remembers riding on the fender by my Great Grandfather as
> they drove it home.
> When he bought the 88, the 70 went to doing the lighter work. In
> 1954, after my grandfather left home, he traded the 70 and the 88 in
> for an International MTA diesel. Grandpa told me that all of the
> farmers in the area thought that my Great Grandfather was nuts for
> buying such a big tractor. However, when gas was $0.25, and diesel was
> $0.05, he saved $0.20 per gallon on fuel!
> The 66 is also a significant tractor for me. My grandfather bought it
> I am guessing 40 or so years ago from the same Oliver dealer. He used
> it for a lot of years raking hay, cultivating, etc.
> That little 66 hasn't spent a night outside since Grandpa has owned
> it. It starts sooo good. He still uses it on an auger on occation.
> Recently, (I think maybe two years ago) my grandfather bought an
> Oliver 88. The day after he brought it home he taught me how to run
> it. Every time I go out there now, driving the 88 is really something
> I look forward too, even though he's accquired 4 others since. I've
> driven the 66 also. Its more or less the same tractor, just smaller.
> He also has an Oliver Hart Parr 70 now. Haven't ever driven that yet.
> Hope this wasn't to boring, just thought I'd throw in my $0.02 worth.
> Take Care,
> Tyler Juranek
> IA
>
> On 12/22/14, jtchall at nc.rr.com <jtchall at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>> I checked Wendell's Oliver book and came up with these figures (assuming
>> my
>>
>> math is correct);
>> 30,280 model 66
>> 47,861 model 88
>>
>> The serial numbers skip around a bit. Some years had the standard, row
>> crop
>>
>> and industrial versions in the same list.
>>
>>
>> What's up with the interest in these? You have one or both models or are
>> they on a wish list? It looked to me the 66 Industrial is the rarest.
>>
>> John Hall
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tyler Juranek
>> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 1:05 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: [AT] Oliver production numbers
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Haven't seen to much on the list here, so thought I would post.
>> Does anybody know any production numbers for the 66 or 88 Oliver
>> rowcrop/standard models?
>> I couldn't find anything on www.tractordata.com/
>> Thanks!
>> Take Care, have a good holliday.
>> Tyler Juranek
>> IA
>>
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