[AT] Fw: Black oil after 8hrs in new engine
DDSS
ddss at telebeep.com
Sun Aug 10 08:34:19 PDT 2014
Thanks guys. Just as soon as I hear back from Briggs, I'll post it here.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Spencer Yost
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:30 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Fw: Black oil after 8hrs in new engine
I must admit I've never had this problem with the gasoline engines I have
rebuilt or bought. My cub cadet kohler engine has 285 hours and still has
clean oil when I change it. But in your case there could have been an
additive or something added at the factory discoloring the oil.
Like Steve, I would change the oil and not worry about it. If I continue to
see very dark oil without at least some improvement, I would probably call
the factory. Not sure they would say anything helpful, but like you this
is so out of my normal experience I would want to bounce it off someone.
Now diesel - that's a different matter.
Spencer
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> On Aug 10, 2014, at 8:06, Steve Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The blackest oil I have ever seen came from the hydro units on my Gravely
> ZT at the scheduled 125 hr service. It was just as black as used oil out
> of a diesel. This surprised the heck out of me - hydro units; there's no
> combustion blow-by to make it dirty!
>
> What's my point? You cannot tell anything definitive from oil color.
> Period. I am as certain as I can be from this distance that everything is
> perfectly fine with the Briggs. The first sign of something bad in an
> engine is either bad noise or smoke, not oil color.
>
> SO
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 10, 2014, at 5:42 AM, "DDSS" <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DDSS
>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:27 PM
>> To: rlgoss at twc.com
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine
>>
>> Husqvarna r220t mower with an Endurance (Intek) 20 horse. Husqvarna
>> re-badges the Intek engine as "Endurance". Checked with Briggs and there
>> is
>> no difference between this and an Intek. The Briggs manual I received
>> with
>> it is for Intek.
>>
>> It was shipped to me in sealed factory wooden crates. The oil was in the
>> engine when I received it. It now has 8.1 hours. Drained the oil and it
>> was
>> black. I followed the steps on the prep sheet. Next oil change is at 25
>> hours.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rlgoss at twc.com
>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 5:08 PM
>> To: DDSS
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine
>>
>> New Briggs engine on what? A mower? Did it come from a big box store?
>> Oil
>> is not supplied with a crated mower, and whoever serviced it prior to
>> delivery may have pulled whatever was handy off the shelf. Having once
>> done
>> warranty service for Briggs through a big box store, I treat their
>> make-ready service with suspicion.
>>
>> I betcha they didn't retorque the drive wheels or check the air pressure
>> in
>> the tires, either.
>>
>> That's what i mean by there being more to the story. BUT, having a
>> different oil in it for eight hours is not going to make any difference.
>> When's the next oil change called for? 50 hours? Some manufacturers have
>> the
>> hour-meter automatically start blinking when it hits that reading, and
>> automatically stop blinking after a couple of running hours.
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry
>> ---- DDSS <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
>>> "More to the story"? The V-twin engine has an oil filter, the manual
>>> calls
>>> for straight 30 weight, the oil that I drained from there is black.
>>>
>>> Not sure what else I can add.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rlgoss at twc.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 4:33 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Cc: DDSS
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine
>>>
>>> And you waid it has an oil filter? On modern engines, that typically
>>> means
>>> you can use multi-viscosity oil rather than single weight because you
>>> have
>>> a
>>> pressurized system. I suspect there is more to this story.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> ---- DDSS <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
>>>> Really? I hope that's what it is. I have yet to put new oil in, It
>>>> calls
>>> for straight 30-weight, nothing special. If it had synthetic, am I
>>> supposed
>>> to use just synthetic?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rlgoss at twc.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 2:52 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Cc: DDSS
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine
>>>
>>> Are you sure it wasn't synthetic? Some of that starts out that color.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> ---- DDSS <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
>>>> I just did the first oil change on a new Briggs 20hp engine. The oil
>>>> was
>>> blacker than any oil I have ever seen. I checked the air filter and
>>> other
>>> than some dust, it looked fine. Although they don’t call for an oil
>>> filter
>>> change, I replaced it as well.
>>>
>>> Has anyone ever seen this before?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Dick
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