[AT] Fw: Black oil after 8hrs in new engine

[DDSS]

Waiting on a reply from Briggs.  Husqvarna says to get tech support from the 
dealer. Dealer says go to Husqvanra.  I drained the oil Saturday, so I don't 
expect a response from Briggs until this week some time.

FYI... This was our first big ticket purchase on-line.  We tried desperately 
to find a dealer within 100 miles that could sell us the mower.  Many 
dealers in Omaha gave up the sales part of Husqvarna and kept the service. 
I spoke with one implement dealer who agreed to order it for us but added 
"not sure where you would get service". The dealers listed in Sioux City 
either were no longer handling Husqvarna or they were service only.  What I 
was hearing was that once Husqvarna opened the channel to the big box 
stores, it was no longer profitable for them to retain the dealership.

Lowes, in Omaha and Sioux City only carry the entry level model and I wanted 
a different model.

So, I ordered it on-line.  There are Briggs service centers around here if 
it comes to that.




-----Original Message----- 
From: Herb Metz
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:03 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Fw: Black oil after 8hrs in new engine

Dick, what are Husqvarna and/or Intek Customer Service employees responses?
Herb

-----Original Message----- 
From: DDSS
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:42 AM
To: atis
Subject: [AT] Fw: Black oil after 8hrs in new engine



-----Original Message----- 
From: DDSS
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:27 PM
To: rlgoss at twc.com
Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine

Husqvarna r220t mower with an Endurance (Intek) 20 horse. Husqvarna
re-badges the Intek engine as "Endurance".  Checked with Briggs and there is
no difference between this and an Intek.  The Briggs manual I received with
it is for Intek.

It was shipped to me in sealed factory wooden crates. The oil was in the
engine when I received it. It now has 8.1 hours.  Drained the oil and it was
black.  I followed the steps on the prep sheet.  Next oil change is at 25
hours.

-----Original Message----- 
From: rlgoss at twc.com
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 5:08 PM
To: DDSS
Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine

New Briggs engine on what?  A mower?  Did it come from a big box store? Oil
is not supplied with a crated mower, and whoever serviced it prior to
delivery may have pulled whatever was handy off the shelf. Having once done
warranty service for Briggs through a big box store, I treat their
make-ready service with suspicion.

I betcha they didn't retorque the drive wheels or check the air pressure in
the tires, either.

That's what i mean by there being more to the story.  BUT, having a
different oil in it for eight hours is not going to make any difference.
When's the next oil change called for? 50 hours? Some manufacturers have the
hour-meter automatically start blinking when it hits that reading, and
automatically stop blinking after a couple of running hours.



Larry
---- DDSS <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
> "More to the story"?   The V-twin engine has an oil filter, the manual
> calls
> for straight 30 weight, the oil that I drained from there is black.
>
> Not sure what else I can add.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: rlgoss at twc.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 4:33 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Cc: DDSS
> Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine
>
> And you waid it has an oil filter? On modern engines, that typically means
> you can use multi-viscosity oil rather than single weight because you have
> a
> pressurized system.  I suspect there is more to this story.
>
> Larry
> ---- DDSS <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
> > Really?   I hope that's what it is. I have yet to put new oil in, It
> > calls
> for straight 30-weight, nothing special.  If it had synthetic, am I
> supposed
> to use just synthetic?
>
> Thanks
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: rlgoss at twc.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 2:52 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Cc: DDSS
> Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine
>
> Are you sure it wasn't synthetic?  Some of that starts out that color.
>
> Larry
> ---- DDSS <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
> > I just did the first oil change on a new Briggs 20hp engine. The oil was
> blacker than any oil I have ever seen.  I checked the air filter and other
> than some dust, it looked fine.  Although they don’t call for an oil
> filter
> change, I replaced it as well.
>
> Has anyone ever seen this before?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dick

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