[AT] Fw: Black oil after 8hrs in new engine

[Herb Metz]

Dick, what are Husqvarna and/or Intek Customer Service employees responses? 
Herb

-----Original Message----- 
From: DDSS
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:42 AM
To: atis
Subject: [AT] Fw: Black oil after 8hrs in new engine



-----Original Message----- 
From: DDSS
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:27 PM
To: rlgoss at twc.com
Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine

Husqvarna r220t mower with an Endurance (Intek) 20 horse. Husqvarna
re-badges the Intek engine as "Endurance".  Checked with Briggs and there is
no difference between this and an Intek.  The Briggs manual I received with
it is for Intek.

It was shipped to me in sealed factory wooden crates. The oil was in the
engine when I received it. It now has 8.1 hours.  Drained the oil and it was
black.  I followed the steps on the prep sheet.  Next oil change is at 25
hours.

-----Original Message----- 
From: rlgoss at twc.com
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 5:08 PM
To: DDSS
Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine

New Briggs engine on what?  A mower?  Did it come from a big box store? Oil
is not supplied with a crated mower, and whoever serviced it prior to
delivery may have pulled whatever was handy off the shelf. Having once done
warranty service for Briggs through a big box store, I treat their
make-ready service with suspicion.

I betcha they didn't retorque the drive wheels or check the air pressure in
the tires, either.

That's what i mean by there being more to the story.  BUT, having a
different oil in it for eight hours is not going to make any difference.
When's the next oil change called for? 50 hours? Some manufacturers have the
hour-meter automatically start blinking when it hits that reading, and
automatically stop blinking after a couple of running hours.



Larry
---- DDSS <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
> "More to the story"?   The V-twin engine has an oil filter, the manual
> calls
> for straight 30 weight, the oil that I drained from there is black.
>
> Not sure what else I can add.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: rlgoss at twc.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 4:33 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Cc: DDSS
> Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine
>
> And you waid it has an oil filter? On modern engines, that typically means
> you can use multi-viscosity oil rather than single weight because you have
> a
> pressurized system.  I suspect there is more to this story.
>
> Larry
> ---- DDSS <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
> > Really?   I hope that's what it is. I have yet to put new oil in, It
> > calls
> for straight 30-weight, nothing special.  If it had synthetic, am I
> supposed
> to use just synthetic?
>
> Thanks
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: rlgoss at twc.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 2:52 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Cc: DDSS
> Subject: Re: [AT] Black oil after 8hrs in new engine
>
> Are you sure it wasn't synthetic?  Some of that starts out that color.
>
> Larry
> ---- DDSS <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
> > I just did the first oil change on a new Briggs 20hp engine. The oil was
> blacker than any oil I have ever seen.  I checked the air filter and other
> than some dust, it looked fine.  Although they don’t call for an oil
> filter
> change, I replaced it as well.
>
> Has anyone ever seen this before?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dick