[AT] Fwd: Re: Help needed on non-antique tractor

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Tue Sep 3 10:20:49 PDT 2013


Hi Steve, I really don't know.  You are more qualified to talk about that 
than
me.  I was just wondering if a bad connection would increase the
resistance in the circuit and cause it to heat.  Just a random thought 
really.

You know what Farmer used to say,  check the grounds.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Stephen Offiler
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 12:23 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Fwd: Re: Help needed on non-antique tractor

I don't think a bad ground explains the excess heat in the solenoid, does
it?

SO


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:39 AM, charlie hill 
<charliehill at embarqmail.com>wrote:

> Cecil,  could it be as simple as a bad ground in the solenoid wiring not
> allowing the
> unit to open properly?
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil R Bearden
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 11:12 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Fwd: Re: Help needed on non-antique tractor
>
> Talked to pump shop where I got pump 3 years ago.  They said they had
> never had this type of problem with a fuel solenoid.
>
>
> On 9/3/2013 9:41 AM, Phil wrote:
> > Cecil,
> > Can you remove the shutdown solenoid and plug the hole? If it corrects
> > the problem, then you know for sure.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Cecil R Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
> >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 8:08 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Help needed on non-antique tractor
> >>
> >>
> >>> TS100 New Holland 2 WD tractor w/ 16x16 trans cab w/air loader
> attached.
> >>> Engine starts easily and seems to rev up to full throttle ok.. When
> >>> slightly loaded it begins to pull down and acts as if there is no
> >>> governor available. Tractor has 2293 hours and uses no oil. I have
> >>> replaced the fuel lift pump twice in last week and replaced filters. 
> >>> It
> >>> has a Delphi inj pump installed at about 1550 hours. Tractor is
> serviced
> >>> and maintained regularly. When connected to 648 New Holland Baler, It
> >>> will barely go up an incline when baling. When traveling in high gear
> on
> >>> roadway, it will pull down to 1500 RPM on slight incline. Works fine
> for
> >>> about 5 minutes after starting, then begins to have no power. After
> >>> running about 30 minutes, I could lay my hand on the injector pump, 
> >>> but
> >>> the fuel shutoff solenoid almost burned my finger.
> >>>
> >>> The fuel pump on this tractor was replaced, not rebuilt with a new
> >>> Delphi pump 743 hours ago. I have kept the filters changed and the 
> >>> fuel
> >>> clean, so I cannot believe the pump needs rebuilding unless the Delphi
> >>> pump is a pile of crap to start with. The original pump self 
> >>> destructed
> >>> at 1550 hours, requiring a new pump.   Pump shop stated the pump had
> >>> been tampered with causing a bolt to beak internally.  The load is not
> >>> excessive as the tractor was pulling the same load fine 2 days 
> >>> earlier.
> >>> I have sealed all possible leaks around the primary filter, and find 
> >>> no
> >>> wet spots when pressurizing the tank. Is it possible that the shut off
> >>> solenoid is bad since it is getting hot. The shutoff solenoid is a
> >>> plunger at the back of the pump near the distributor head. I am about
> to
> >>> pull the tank and check the intake line in the tank, it is all that is
> >>> left.
> >>>
> >>> This is my only tractor left with a 1000 RPM PTO that can pull my
> >>> swather and also has the electronic baler monitor attached...   A cat
> >>> mechanic thought maybe an injector was pressurizing the return line
> >>> causing the fuel solenoid to get hot.  It does not seem to be missing.
> >>> It seems that all these problems started after I drained the fuel bowl
> >>> in the primary sediment bulb.  I have sealed it totally now, so should
> >>> not be the problem.
> >>>
> >>> Cecil in OKla
> >>>
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