[AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
Chuck Saunders
gooberdog at gmail.com
Wed Oct 16 13:12:56 PDT 2013
I think that our response is the result of guilt by association. As more
and more forums and internet lists get invaded by true undeniable spammers
and the signal to noise ratio has decreased, our patience over these
interruptions and yes threats to the list have caused or tolerance level to
drop. I can't fault Raquel for being a girl and not named Fred, but because
woman do not reflect our demographic that was probably another checkmark in
the spammer list. As a result the tally came back as
First Post is advertising sale
Post is from (gasp) a female
Tagged onto a different thread
Probably best described as a knee jerk reaction and should serve as a
reminder that not all people are bad. I think we messed up this time guys (
I thought it was spam too)
Chuck Saunders
KC MO
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:38 PM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>wrote:
> I can remember well when we had two tire dealers on the list
> that participated but always spoke up when someone mentioned tires.
> Someone in the group (forgive me I don't remember who) was/is in the
> business of re-producing old repair manuals and was always offering to
> buy or borrow ones we have to be copied and offering to sell manuals to us.
> Then someone mentioned the paint man. Neil Yeargin helped us with
> our mags but we bought his book too. Roger Welch begged, borrowed and
> stole our comments for his books and national TV spots that he made
> his living from.
>
> I didn't mind any of that and I don't mind the ladies post today. I do
> think she
> could have taken a little more time and care in constructing her message
> but
> I don't think the fact that she sent it to us was out of line. She didn't
> know and was our guest.
> I wonder how .... no I KNOW how.... Cecil Monson would have viewed our
> response
> to her.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:19 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
>
> Well I for one, found her post and the auction site, a lot more palatable
> than the posts of those who chose to vent their spleen over something
> that happens all the time...
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bob Davenport <bobdavenport at bellsouth.net>
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Thursday, 17 October 2013 7:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
> >
> > I have been a member of this list for many years. I think maybe since
> > about
> > 1995 or so. You could probably count my posts on your ten fingers. I
> > just
> > read the postings that interest me and as of late that ain't many of
> them.
> >
> > Why in "h___" wouldn't you be interested in knowing of an auction
> > like this?
> > Maybe she was wanting to help the outcome of the auction, So what? She
> > didn't cost anyone on this list any money or harm anybody. No one had
> to
> > read her posts but maybe someone who hadn't heard about it might it
> > helpful.
> >
> > There've probably been thousands of posts about auctions, one just very
> > recently. Seems like this list has a few core members and if you aren't
> > one of them you don't seem to be very welcome.
> >
> > Bob Davenport
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Glass" <dglass at numail.org>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
> >
> >
> >> I don't think Raquel did anything wrong either but being a member in
> >> good standings of the old curmudgeons guild sometimes we just have to
> >> comment. Someone had listed that auction previously but I thought her
> >> story about Big Al and the Twins just added a human touch to the thing.
> >> Anyway, I have never seen a tricycle G before. I looked at the
> > photo's
> >> and they use most of the stock steering parts but I don't think AC ever
> >> offered one like that. I might steer ok for parades but I think any
> use
> >> in the field might be hampered without a heavy weight. The two wheel
> >> steering is hard enough without weights. Those little tractors have a
> >> mind of their own when cultivating sometimes.
> >> On 10/16/2013 7:00 AM, Will Powell wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Auctions are a huge part of tractor collecting.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What was that large auction topic that was bombarding the list a month
> > or
> >>> two ago? I can't remember anyone getting slapped down over that
> > topic?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps Raquel should have said something like "Has anyone seen
> > the three
> >>> wheeled G at WV auction?"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Or "Anyone going to the Lapp Auction in Lancaster this
> > Sunday?"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Come to think of it, what is the large tractor auction in Lancaster?
> >>> It's usually in February? My father and I would always go. Bergeys?
> > Was
> >>> that it? It's been so long since I've been to an auction...
> > I've been
> >>> paying tuition now for 8 years with two more years to go... I can't
> > wait
> >>> for my youngest to graduate so I can be a consumer again...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Maybe new posters should be given a little more slack?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Will
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: "Joe Hazewinkel" <jahaze at aol.com>
> >>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> >>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:35:48 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
> >>>
> >>> You guys sure are a grumpy bunch. It's those kind of mean spirited
> > posts
> >>> that will kill this list once and for all. At this point and time,
> any
> >
> >>> post is better than none at all. At least she wasn't pushing male
> >
> >>> enhancement pills, I've got enough of those to last several
> > lifetimes!
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy, Joe
> >>>
> >>> Sent via mobile device
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 12:27 AM, k7jdj at aol..com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I remember a paint guy doing more or less the same thing several years
> >>> ago and I sure don't remember a big fuss about that. Of course I
> > think
> >>> Walt was the big distraction then.. Not like there has been a lot of
> >>> traffic lately and my computer has a delete key.
> >>>
> >>> Gary
> >>> Renton WA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Charlie V <1cdevill at gmail.com>
> >>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >>> Sent: Tue, Oct 15, 2013 7:08 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> As stated, Dave, none of my business. Control of this list as we all
> >>> know
> >>> is 100% up to Spencer. Having said that, I will now say that it rubs
> > my
> >>> fur backwards when folks think they can slip in the back door and
> > nobody
> >>> will notice. When I see this type activity, I always wonder why
> anyone
> >>> thinks that taking advantage or being underhanded will make anyone
> want
> >
> >>> to
> >>> do business with them.??????????
> >>>
> >>> Again, just my 2 cents.
> >>>
> >>> Charlie V., just another collector, sort of.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:10 PM, David Rotigel
> > <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Well said Charlie--and I could NOT agree more!
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 15, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Charlie V
> > <1cdevill at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> None of my business, but I am guessing possibly 1000 other
> > auction
> >>>>> companies around the country would enjoy free advertising also.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just my 2 cents.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Charlie V.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://wsmauctioneers.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Raquel Elle Bell <
> >>>> raquel at wsmauctioneers.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello All,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My name is Raquel and I wanted to let everyone know about
> > an auction
> >>>> coming
> >>>>>> up. The items in the auction belonged to the father of my
> > boss "Big
> >>>> John"
> >>>>>> Cadzow. Unfortunately Big John passed away and now we are
> > auctioning
> >>>>>> his
> >>>>>> collection.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I wanted to join this group so that I could get the word
> > out to people
> >>>> who
> >>>>>> cared as much about this machinery as Big John did. I do
> > not want to
> >>>> take
> >>>>>> up
> >>>>>> too much time on post so if anyone is interested in the
> > auction please
> >>>>>> message me off thread for details. My email is
> >>>> raquel at wsmauctioneers.com
> >>>>>> Here are a couple things coming up in the auction....
> >>>>>> 1956 Sheppard Diesel SD4TC Tractor
> >>>>>> Eimco Power Horse Tractor
> >>>>>> Ruston & Hornshy 17hp Diesel Mark CR
> >>>>>> Oliver HG Cletrac Wid Trac Crawler Tractor
> >>>>>> Allis Chalmers G
> >>>>>> John Deere 1 1/2hp Hit & Miss Engine
> >>>>>> Waterloo Boy 4hp Hit & Miss Engine
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I really want these to go to someone who really appreciates
> > them and
> >>>>>> not
> >>>>>> just a collector.
> >>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>> Raquel
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >>>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> > Mike
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:45 PM
> >>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not sure where Dick's son lives that there aren't
> > sprinkler companies
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> hundreds of miles, but I can see how renting one might be
> > hard. Here
> >>>>>> in
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> northern US, blowing out sprinkler systems is a big
> > business in the
> >>>> fall. A
> >>>>>> lot of small fly by night operations go into the sprinkler
> > blow out
> >>>>>> business
> >>>>>> in the fall, and rent the compressors by the month.
> >>>>>> They can't afford, nor would it be a good idea for them
> > to buy them,
> >>>> just
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> sit for 10 months unused. No way could I justify owning one
> > for a once
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> year use.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dick, one thing your son might want to check into is having
> > self
> >>>> draining
> >>>>>> valves added to his existing system. I had a system
> > installed in
> >>>>>> another
> >>>>>> house that had drains on each line. When the circuit was
> > active, water
> >>>>>> pressure would keep the drain closed. When the pressure was
> > gone the
> >>>> drain
> >>>>>> opened and the circuit was drained. This was in Michigan,
> > and we never
> >>>> had
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> problem. I suspect with the right parts it is a DIY
> > project. Heck of
> >>>>>> a
> >>>> lot
> >>>>>> cheaper than a compressor.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.orbitonline.com/products/Valves/02/16/16/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mike M
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 10/14/2013 6:51 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> >>>>>>> That seems strange to me. Not doubting it at all but
> > in this little
> >>>>>>> county of 90,000 where I live I promise you I could
> > rent half a dozen
> >>>>>>> of them or more tomorrow before
> >>>>>>> 9 am. If I ventured out into 3 other adjoining
> > counties I could rent
> >>>>>>> many more than that. I know one rental company that we
> > do a lot of
> >>>>>>> business with about 5 miles from here that probably has
> > 20 or more on
> >>>>>>> his lot at any given time ranging from 165 cfm to 1100
> > cfm. The only
> >>>>>>> time he is short on them is if one of about 3
> > industrial plants
> >>>>>>> around
> >>>>>>> here is having a big maintenance outage. Then they
> > kind of get in
> >>>>>>> short supply but there is always one or two available.
> > In addition
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> that privately held rental outfit there is another
> > private one in the
> >>>>>>> other end of the county
> >>>>>>> and 3 national/regional outfits within 50 miles.
> > We've got the
> >>>>>>> locals
> >>>>>>> and then Sunbelt and NEFF and NES and on down the road
> > about 100
> >>>>>>> miles
> >>>>>>> is Hertz. Neff and NES have several yards spread
> > around this area.
> >>>>>>> A lot of Home Depot stores in NC have Sunbelt rental
> > stores inside of
> >>>>>>> the Home Depot.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Charlie
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Ron Cook
> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 1:52 PM
> >>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dick,
> >>>>>>> That is WAY too much lawn. Interesting about the
> > compressor
> >>>>>>> rentals. No wonder my friend would like this one going
> > I am working
> >>>>>>> on. Actually it is going, just the speed control is
> > worn so bad it
> >>>>>>> doesn't work properly, and I have it torn apart so
> > he can't run off
> >>>>>>> with it. If it were mine, I would just put a throttle
> > on it and let
> >>>>>>> the governor run it where I have it set. He wants it
> > to slow down
> >>>>>>> when air is not being demanded. Oh, well.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ron Cook
> >>>>>>> Salix, iA
> >>>>>>>> On 10/14/2013 12:26 PM, Dick Day wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ron, actually he lives just outside of Chicago.
> > The 5 acres is his
> >>>>>> lawn
> >>>>>>>> size. I suggested that he just rent one but he
> > said the 2 rental
> >>>>>>>> places anywhere near him have them rented out for
> > the next 2 months.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>> From: "Ron Cook"
> > <ron at lakeport-1.com>
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:35 AM
> >>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
> > group"
> >>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dick,
> >>>>>>>>> He must be involved with those melons and
> > pumpkins not far
> >>>>>>>>> from you. I was surprised a few years ago when
> > at the airport, I
> >>>>>>>>> saw cactus growing in the sand. I had no idea
> > you had a little
> >>>>>>>>> piece of AZ
> >>>>>>>>> there.:-)
> >>>>>>>>> I think the towable screw compressors work
> > quite well for that
> >>>>>>>>> job. You do have another engine to keep
> > operational besides a
> >>>>>>>>> tractor, so I can understand wanting a pto
> > powered unit. I am
> >>>>>>>>> working on an old compressor in my shop that
> > belongs to a friend of
> >>>>>>>>> mine. He wants to get it going to blow out
> > lawn sprinkler systems.
> >>>>>>>>> The compressor needs to turn at about 1700 rpm
> > for 90 lbs of
> >>>>>>>>> pressure at some unreal cfm figure. Maybe 160
> > cfm? If I get it
> >>>>>>>>> going, it will supply air for my blasting
> > cabinet as payment for my
> >>>>>>>>> work. Or, maybe I should just tell him it is
> > hopeless and buy it
> >>>>>>>>> from him?????:-) ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ron Cook
> >>>>>>>>> Salix, IA
> >>>>>>>>>
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