[AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale

Tom tmartin at xtra.co.nz
Wed Oct 16 12:19:07 PDT 2013


Well I for one, found her post and the auction site, a lot more palatable
than the posts of  those who chose to vent their spleen over something
that happens all the time...

Tom




----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Davenport <bobdavenport at bellsouth.net>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, 17 October 2013 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
> 
> I have been a member of this list for many years.  I think maybe since about 
> 1995 or so.  You could probably count my posts on your ten fingers.   I just 
> read the postings that interest me and as of late that ain't many of them.
> 
> Why in "h___" wouldn't you be interested in knowing of an auction 
> like this? 
> Maybe she was wanting to help the outcome of the auction,   So what?  She 
> didn't cost anyone on this list any money or harm anybody.   No one had to 
> read her posts but maybe someone who hadn't heard about it might it helpful.
> 
> There've probably been thousands of posts about auctions,  one just very 
> recently.   Seems like this list has a few core members and if you aren't 
> one of them you don't seem to be very welcome.
> 
> Bob Davenport
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> Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan Glass" <dglass at numail.org>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
> 
> 
>> I don't think Raquel did anything wrong either but being a member in
>>  good standings of the old curmudgeons guild sometimes we just have to
>>  comment.  Someone had listed that auction previously but I thought her
>>  story about Big Al and the Twins just added a human touch to the thing.
>>  Anyway, I have never seen  a tricycle G before.  I looked at the 
> photo's
>>  and they use most of the stock steering parts but I don't think AC ever
>>  offered one like that.  I might steer ok for parades but I think any use
>>  in the field might be hampered without a heavy weight.  The two wheel
>>  steering is hard enough without weights.  Those little tractors have a
>>  mind of their own when cultivating sometimes.
>>  On 10/16/2013 7:00 AM, Will Powell wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Auctions are a huge part of tractor collecting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  What was that large auction topic that was bombarding the list a month 
> or 
>>>  two ago? I can't remember anyone getting slapped down over that 
> topic?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Perhaps Raquel should have said something like "Has anyone seen 
> the three 
>>>  wheeled G at WV auction?"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Or "Anyone going to the Lapp Auction in Lancaster this 
> Sunday?"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Come to think of it,   what is the large tractor auction in Lancaster? 
>>>  It's usually in February? My father and I would always go. Bergeys? 
> Was 
>>>  that it?  It's been so long since I've been to an auction... 
> I've been 
>>>  paying tuition now for 8 years with two more years to go... I can't 
> wait 
>>>  for my youngest to graduate so I can be a consumer again...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Maybe new posters should be given a little more slack?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Will
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  From: "Joe Hazewinkel" <jahaze at aol.com>
>>>  To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>>>  <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>  Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:35:48 AM
>>>  Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
>>> 
>>>  You guys sure are a grumpy bunch.  It's those kind of mean spirited 
> posts 
>>>  that will kill this list once and for all.  At this point and time, any 
> 
>>>  post is better than none at all.   At least she wasn't pushing male 
> 
>>>  enhancement pills, I've got enough of those to last several 
> lifetimes!
>>> 
>>>  Enjoy, Joe
>>> 
>>>  Sent via mobile device
>>> 
>>>  On Oct 16, 2013, at 12:27 AM, k7jdj at aol..com wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I remember a paint guy doing more or less the same thing several years 
>>>  ago and I sure don't remember a big fuss about that.  Of course I 
> think 
>>>  Walt was the big distraction then..  Not like there has been a lot of 
>>>  traffic lately and my computer has a delete key.
>>> 
>>>  Gary
>>>  Renton WA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: Charlie V <1cdevill at gmail.com>
>>>  To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>  Sent: Tue, Oct 15, 2013 7:08 pm
>>>  Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  As stated, Dave, none of my business.  Control of this list as we all 
>>>  know
>>>  is 100% up to Spencer.  Having said that, I will now say that it rubs 
> my
>>>  fur backwards when folks think they can slip in the back door and 
> nobody
>>>  will notice.  When I see this type activity, I always wonder why anyone
>>>  thinks that taking advantage or being underhanded will make anyone want 
> 
>>>  to
>>>  do business with them.??????????
>>> 
>>>  Again, just my 2 cents.
>>> 
>>>  Charlie V., just another collector, sort of.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>  On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:10 PM, David Rotigel 
> <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Well said Charlie--and I could NOT agree more!
>>>>          Dave
>>>> 
>>>>>  On Oct 15, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Charlie V 
> <1cdevill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  None of my business, but I am guessing possibly 1000 other 
> auction
>>>>>  companies around the country would enjoy free advertising also.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Just my 2 cents.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Charlie V.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  http://wsmauctioneers.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Raquel Elle Bell <
>>>>  raquel at wsmauctioneers.com
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>  Hello All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  My name is Raquel and I wanted to let everyone know about 
> an auction
>>>>  coming
>>>>>>  up. The items in the auction belonged to the father of my 
> boss "Big
>>>>  John"
>>>>>>  Cadzow. Unfortunately Big John passed away and now we are 
> auctioning 
>>>>>>  his
>>>>>>  collection.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I wanted to join this group so that I could get the word 
> out to people
>>>>  who
>>>>>>  cared as much about this machinery as Big John did. I do 
> not want to
>>>>  take
>>>>>>  up
>>>>>>  too much time on post so if anyone is interested in the 
> auction please
>>>>>>  message me off thread for details. My email is
>>>>  raquel at wsmauctioneers.com
>>>>>>  Here are a couple things coming up in the auction....
>>>>>>  1956 Sheppard Diesel SD4TC Tractor
>>>>>>  Eimco Power Horse Tractor
>>>>>>  Ruston & Hornshy 17hp Diesel Mark CR
>>>>>>  Oliver HG Cletrac Wid Trac Crawler Tractor
>>>>>>  Allis Chalmers G
>>>>>>  John Deere 1 1/2hp Hit & Miss Engine
>>>>>>  Waterloo Boy 4hp Hit & Miss Engine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I really want these to go to someone who really appreciates 
> them and 
>>>>>>  not
>>>>>>  just a collector.
>>>>>>  Thank you,
>>>>>>  Raquel
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>  From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>>  [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike
>>>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:45 PM
>>>>>>  To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Not sure where Dick's son lives that there aren't 
> sprinkler companies
>>>>  for
>>>>>>  hundreds of miles, but I can see how renting one might be 
> hard. Here 
>>>>>>  in
>>>>  the
>>>>>>  northern US, blowing out sprinkler systems is a big 
> business in the
>>>>  fall. A
>>>>>>  lot of small fly by night operations go into the sprinkler 
> blow out
>>>>>>  business
>>>>>>  in the fall, and rent the compressors by the month.
>>>>>>  They can't afford, nor would it be a good idea for them 
> to buy them,
>>>>  just
>>>>>>  to
>>>>>>  sit for 10 months unused. No way could I justify owning one 
> for a once 
>>>>>>  a
>>>>>>  year use.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Dick, one thing your son might want to check into is having 
> self
>>>>  draining
>>>>>>  valves added to his existing system. I had a system 
> installed in 
>>>>>>  another
>>>>>>  house that had drains on each line. When the circuit was 
> active, water
>>>>>>  pressure would keep the drain closed. When the pressure was 
> gone the
>>>>  drain
>>>>>>  opened and the circuit was drained. This was in Michigan, 
> and we never
>>>>  had
>>>>>>  a
>>>>>>  problem.  I suspect with the right parts it is a DIY 
> project. Heck of 
>>>>>>  a
>>>>  lot
>>>>>>  cheaper than a compressor.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  http://www.orbitonline.com/products/Valves/02/16/16/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Mike M
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  On 10/14/2013 6:51 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>  That seems strange to me.  Not doubting it at all but 
> in this little
>>>>>>>  county of 90,000 where I live I promise you I could 
> rent half a dozen
>>>>>>>  of them or more tomorrow before
>>>>>>>  9 am.  If I ventured out into 3 other adjoining 
> counties I could rent
>>>>>>>  many more than that.  I know one rental company that we 
> do a lot of
>>>>>>>  business with about 5 miles from here that probably has 
> 20 or more on
>>>>>>>  his lot at any given time ranging from 165 cfm to 1100 
> cfm.  The only
>>>>>>>  time he is short on them is if one of about 3 
> industrial plants 
>>>>>>>  around
>>>>>>>  here is having a big maintenance outage.  Then they 
> kind of get in
>>>>>>>  short supply but there is always one or two available.  
> In addition 
>>>>>>>  to
>>>>>>>  that privately held rental outfit there is another 
> private one in the
>>>>>>>  other end of the county
>>>>>>>  and 3 national/regional outfits within 50 miles.  
> We've got the 
>>>>>>>  locals
>>>>>>>  and then Sunbelt and NEFF and NES and on down the road 
> about 100 
>>>>>>>  miles
>>>>>>>  is Hertz.   Neff and NES have several yards spread 
> around this area.
>>>>>>>  A lot of Home Depot stores in NC have Sunbelt rental 
> stores inside of
>>>>>>>  the Home Depot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Charlie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>  From: Ron Cook
>>>>>>>  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 1:52 PM
>>>>>>>  To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Dick,
>>>>>>>       That is WAY too much lawn.  Interesting about the 
> compressor
>>>>>>>  rentals.  No wonder my friend would like this one going 
> I am working
>>>>>>>  on.  Actually it is going, just the speed control is 
> worn so bad it
>>>>>>>  doesn't work properly, and I have it torn apart so 
> he can't run off
>>>>>>>  with it.  If it were mine, I would just put a throttle 
> on it and let
>>>>>>>  the governor run it where I have it set.  He wants it 
> to slow down
>>>>>>>  when air is not being demanded.  Oh, well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Ron Cook
>>>>>>>  Salix, iA
>>>>>>>>  On 10/14/2013 12:26 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>>>>>>>  Ron, actually he lives just outside of Chicago.  
> The 5 acres is his
>>>>>>  lawn
>>>>>>>>  size.  I suggested that he just rent one but he 
> said the 2 rental
>>>>>>>>  places anywhere near him have them rented out for 
> the next 2 months.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>  From: "Ron Cook" 
> <ron at lakeport-1.com>
>>>>>>>>  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:35 AM
>>>>>>>>  To: "Antique tractor email discussion 
> group"
>>>>>>>>  <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  Dick,
>>>>>>>>>       He must be involved with those melons and 
> pumpkins not far
>>>>>>>>>  from you.  I was surprised a few years ago when 
> at the airport, I
>>>>>>>>>  saw cactus growing in the sand.  I had no idea 
> you had a little
>>>>>>>>>  piece of AZ
>>>>>>>>>  there.:-)
>>>>>>>>>       I think the towable screw compressors work 
> quite well for that
>>>>>>>>>  job.  You do have another engine to keep 
> operational besides a
>>>>>>>>>  tractor, so I can understand wanting a pto 
> powered unit.  I am
>>>>>>>>>  working on an old compressor in my shop that 
> belongs to a friend of
>>>>>>>>>  mine.  He wants to get it going to blow out 
> lawn sprinkler systems.
>>>>>>>>>  The compressor needs to turn at about 1700 rpm 
> for 90 lbs of
>>>>>>>>>  pressure at some unreal cfm figure.  Maybe 160 
> cfm?  If I get it
>>>>>>>>>  going, it will supply air for my blasting 
> cabinet as payment for my
>>>>>>>>>  work.  Or, maybe I should just tell him it is 
> hopeless and buy it
>>>>>>>>>  from him?????:-) ;-)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  Ron Cook
>>>>>>>>>  Salix, IA
>>>>>>>>> 
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