[AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale

Dick Day ddss at telebeep.com
Wed Oct 16 19:59:24 PDT 2013 

Personally, I would have let Spencer say something if he felt the post was 
inappropriate, after all, it is his forum.

Just my .02

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From: <k7jdj at aol.com>
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Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale

> Well said Bob.  I feel the same.
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> Gary
> Renton, WA
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> From: Bob Davenport <bobdavenport at bellsouth.net>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:48 am
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> I have been a member of this list for many years.  I think maybe since 
> about
> 1995 or so.  You could probably count my posts on your ten fingers.   I 
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> read the postings that interest me and as of late that ain't many of them.
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> Why in "h___" wouldn't you be interested in knowing of an auction like 
> this?
> Maybe she was wanting to help the outcome of the auction,   So what?  She
> didn't cost anyone on this list any money or harm anybody.   No one had to
> read her posts but maybe someone who hadn't heard about it might it 
> helpful.
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> There've probably been thousands of posts about auctions,  one just very
> recently.   Seems like this list has a few core members and if you aren't
> one of them you don't seem to be very welcome.
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> Bob Davenport
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> Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan Glass" <dglass at numail.org>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:44 AM
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>>I don't think Raquel did anything wrong either but being a member in
>> good standings of the old curmudgeons guild sometimes we just have to
>> comment.  Someone had listed that auction previously but I thought her
>> story about Big Al and the Twins just added a human touch to the thing.
>> Anyway, I have never seen  a tricycle G before.  I looked at the photo's
>> and they use most of the stock steering parts but I don't think AC ever
>> offered one like that.  I might steer ok for parades but I think any use
>> in the field might be hampered without a heavy weight.  The two wheel
>> steering is hard enough without weights.  Those little tractors have a
>> mind of their own when cultivating sometimes.
>> On 10/16/2013 7:00 AM, Will Powell wrote:
>>>
>>> Auctions are a huge part of tractor collecting.
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>>>
>>> What was that large auction topic that was bombarding the list a month 
>>> or
>>> two ago? I can't remember anyone getting slapped down over that topic?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps Raquel should have said something like "Has anyone seen the 
>>> three
>>> wheeled G at WV auction?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Or "Anyone going to the Lapp Auction in Lancaster this Sunday?"
>>>
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>>>
>>> Come to think of it,   what is the large tractor auction in Lancaster?
>>> It's usually in February? My father and I would always go. Bergeys? Was
>>> that it?  It's been so long since I've been to an auction... I've been
>>> paying tuition now for 8 years with two more years to go... I can't wait
>>> for my youngest to graduate so I can be a consumer again...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe new posters should be given a little more slack?
>>>
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>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Will
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
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>>> From: "Joe Hazewinkel" <jahaze at aol.com>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:35:48 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
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>>> You guys sure are a grumpy bunch.  It's those kind of mean spirited 
>>> posts
>>> that will kill this list once and for all.  At this point and time, any
>>> post is better than none at all.   At least she wasn't pushing male
>>> enhancement pills, I've got enough of those to last several lifetimes!
>>>
>>> Enjoy, Joe
>>>
>>> Sent via mobile device
>>>
>>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 12:27 AM, k7jdj at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I remember a paint guy doing more or less the same thing several years
>>> ago and I sure don't remember a big fuss about that.  Of course I think
>>> Walt was the big distraction then.  Not like there has been a lot of
>>> traffic lately and my computer has a delete key.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> Renton WA
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Charlie V <1cdevill at gmail.com>
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Tue, Oct 15, 2013 7:08 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
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>>> As stated, Dave, none of my business.  Control of this list as we all
>>> know
>>> is 100% up to Spencer.  Having said that, I will now say that it rubs my
>>> fur backwards when folks think they can slip in the back door and nobody
>>> will notice.  When I see this type activity, I always wonder why anyone
>>> thinks that taking advantage or being underhanded will make anyone want
>>> to
>>> do business with them.??????????
>>>
>>> Again, just my 2 cents.
>>>
>>> Charlie V., just another collector, sort of.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:10 PM, David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well said Charlie--and I could NOT agree more!
>>>>         Dave
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 15, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Charlie V <1cdevill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> None of my business, but I am guessing possibly 1000 other auction
>>>>> companies around the country would enjoy free advertising also.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie V.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wsmauctioneers.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Raquel Elle Bell <
>>>> raquel at wsmauctioneers.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My name is Raquel and I wanted to let everyone know about an auction
>>>> coming
>>>>>> up. The items in the auction belonged to the father of my boss "Big
>>>> John"
>>>>>> Cadzow. Unfortunately Big John passed away and now we are auctioning
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> collection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to join this group so that I could get the word out to 
>>>>>> people
>>>> who
>>>>>> cared as much about this machinery as Big John did. I do not want to
>>>> take
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> too much time on post so if anyone is interested in the auction 
>>>>>> please
>>>>>> message me off thread for details. My email is
>>>> raquel at wsmauctioneers.com
>>>>>> Here are a couple things coming up in the auction....
>>>>>> 1956 Sheppard Diesel SD4TC Tractor
>>>>>> Eimco Power Horse Tractor
>>>>>> Ruston & Hornshy 17hp Diesel Mark CR
>>>>>> Oliver HG Cletrac Wid Trac Crawler Tractor
>>>>>> Allis Chalmers G
>>>>>> John Deere 1 1/2hp Hit & Miss Engine
>>>>>> Waterloo Boy 4hp Hit & Miss Engine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really want these to go to someone who really appreciates them and
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> just a collector.
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Raquel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Mike
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:45 PM
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure where Dick's son lives that there aren't sprinkler companies
>>>> for
>>>>>> hundreds of miles, but I can see how renting one might be hard. Here
>>>>>> in
>>>> the
>>>>>> northern US, blowing out sprinkler systems is a big business in the
>>>> fall. A
>>>>>> lot of small fly by night operations go into the sprinkler blow out
>>>>>> business
>>>>>> in the fall, and rent the compressors by the month.
>>>>>> They can't afford, nor would it be a good idea for them to buy them,
>>>> just
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> sit for 10 months unused. No way could I justify owning one for a 
>>>>>> once
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> year use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick, one thing your son might want to check into is having self
>>>> draining
>>>>>> valves added to his existing system. I had a system installed in
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> house that had drains on each line. When the circuit was active, 
>>>>>> water
>>>>>> pressure would keep the drain closed. When the pressure was gone the
>>>> drain
>>>>>> opened and the circuit was drained. This was in Michigan, and we 
>>>>>> never
>>>> had
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> problem.  I suspect with the right parts it is a DIY project. Heck of
>>>>>> a
>>>> lot
>>>>>> cheaper than a compressor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.orbitonline.com/products/Valves/02/16/16/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/14/2013 6:51 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>> That seems strange to me.  Not doubting it at all but in this little
>>>>>>> county of 90,000 where I live I promise you I could rent half a 
>>>>>>> dozen
>>>>>>> of them or more tomorrow before
>>>>>>> 9 am.  If I ventured out into 3 other adjoining counties I could 
>>>>>>> rent
>>>>>>> many more than that.  I know one rental company that we do a lot of
>>>>>>> business with about 5 miles from here that probably has 20 or more 
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> his lot at any given time ranging from 165 cfm to 1100 cfm.  The 
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> time he is short on them is if one of about 3 industrial plants
>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>> here is having a big maintenance outage.  Then they kind of get in
>>>>>>> short supply but there is always one or two available.  In addition
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> that privately held rental outfit there is another private one in 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> other end of the county
>>>>>>> and 3 national/regional outfits within 50 miles.   We've got the
>>>>>>> locals
>>>>>>> and then Sunbelt and NEFF and NES and on down the road about 100
>>>>>>> miles
>>>>>>> is Hertz.   Neff and NES have several yards spread around this area.
>>>>>>> A lot of Home Depot stores in NC have Sunbelt rental stores inside 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the Home Depot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Ron Cook
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 1:52 PM
>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dick,
>>>>>>>      That is WAY too much lawn.  Interesting about the compressor
>>>>>>> rentals.  No wonder my friend would like this one going I am working
>>>>>>> on.  Actually it is going, just the speed control is worn so bad it
>>>>>>> doesn't work properly, and I have it torn apart so he can't run off
>>>>>>> with it.  If it were mine, I would just put a throttle on it and let
>>>>>>> the governor run it where I have it set.  He wants it to slow down
>>>>>>> when air is not being demanded.  Oh, well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron Cook
>>>>>>> Salix, iA
>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2013 12:26 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ron, actually he lives just outside of Chicago.   The 5 acres is 
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>> lawn
>>>>>>>> size.  I suggested that he just rent one but he said the 2 rental
>>>>>>>> places anywhere near him have them rented out for the next 2 
>>>>>>>> months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> From: "Ron Cook" <ron at lakeport-1.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:35 AM
>>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dick,
>>>>>>>>>      He must be involved with those melons and pumpkins not far
>>>>>>>>> from you.  I was surprised a few years ago when at the airport, I
>>>>>>>>> saw cactus growing in the sand.  I had no idea you had a little
>>>>>>>>> piece of AZ
>>>>>>>>> there.:-)
>>>>>>>>>      I think the towable screw compressors work quite well for 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> job.  You do have another engine to keep operational besides a
>>>>>>>>> tractor, so I can understand wanting a pto powered unit.  I am
>>>>>>>>> working on an old compressor in my shop that belongs to a friend 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> mine.  He wants to get it going to blow out lawn sprinkler 
>>>>>>>>> systems.
>>>>>>>>> The compressor needs to turn at about 1700 rpm for 90 lbs of
>>>>>>>>> pressure at some unreal cfm figure.  Maybe 160 cfm?  If I get it
>>>>>>>>> going, it will supply air for my blasting cabinet as payment for 
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> work.  Or, maybe I should just tell him it is hopeless and buy it
>>>>>>>>> from him?????:-) ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ron Cook
>>>>>>>>> Salix, IA
>>>>>>>>>
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