[AT] Antique Tractor; now AC NFE G's

Dan Glass dglass at numail.org
Wed Oct 16 05:34:06 PDT 2013 

http://www.wsmauctioneers.com/Catalog.aspx?auctionid=4
On 10/16/2013 8:21 AM, Herb Metz wrote:
> Allis Chalmers did not manufacture a "G model with NFE".  There are half
> dozen or more NFE (some single wheel, others two wheel) units in midwest,
> some are professionally built. Not seriously interested in acquiring, but
> would like to see photos; where do I find the photos, etc?
> Herb
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Glass
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 7:44 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
>
> I don't think Raquel did anything wrong either but being a member in
> good standings of the old curmudgeons guild sometimes we just have to
> comment.  Someone had listed that auction previously but I thought her
> story about Big Al and the Twins just added a human touch to the thing.
> Anyway, I have never seen  a tricycle G before.  I looked at the photo's
> and they use most of the stock steering parts but I don't think AC ever
> offered one like that.  I might steer ok for parades but I think any use
> in the field might be hampered without a heavy weight.  The two wheel
> steering is hard enough without weights.  Those little tractors have a
> mind of their own when cultivating sometimes.
> On 10/16/2013 7:00 AM, Will Powell wrote:
>> Auctions are a huge part of tractor collecting.
>>
>>
>>
>> What was that large auction topic that was bombarding the list a month or
>> two ago? I can't remember anyone getting slapped down over that topic?
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps Raquel should have said something like "Has anyone seen the three
>> wheeled G at WV auction?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Or "Anyone going to the Lapp Auction in Lancaster this Sunday?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Come to think of it,   what is the large tractor auction in Lancaster?
>> It's usually in February? My father and I would always go. Bergeys? Was
>> that it?  It's been so long since I've been to an auction... I've been
>> paying tuition now for 8 years with two more years to go... I can't wait
>> for my youngest to graduate so I can be a consumer again...
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe new posters should be given a little more slack?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Will
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>
>> From: "Joe Hazewinkel" <jahaze at aol.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:35:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
>>
>> You guys sure are a grumpy bunch.  It's those kind of mean spirited posts
>> that will kill this list once and for all.  At this point and time, any
>> post is better than none at all.   At least she wasn't pushing male
>> enhancement pills, I've got enough of those to last several lifetimes!
>>
>> Enjoy, Joe
>>
>> Sent via mobile device
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 12:27 AM, k7jdj at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> I remember a paint guy doing more or less the same thing several years ago
>> and I sure don't remember a big fuss about that.  Of course I think Walt
>> was the big distraction then.  Not like there has been a lot of traffic
>> lately and my computer has a delete key.
>>
>> Gary
>> Renton WA
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charlie V <1cdevill at gmail.com>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Tue, Oct 15, 2013 7:08 pm
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Antique Tractor & Hit & Miss Engines Sale
>>
>>
>> As stated, Dave, none of my business.  Control of this list as we all know
>> is 100% up to Spencer.  Having said that, I will now say that it rubs my
>> fur backwards when folks think they can slip in the back door and nobody
>> will notice.  When I see this type activity, I always wonder why anyone
>> thinks that taking advantage or being underhanded will make anyone want to
>> do business with them.??????????
>>
>> Again, just my 2 cents.
>>
>> Charlie V., just another collector, sort of.
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:10 PM, David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well said Charlie--and I could NOT agree more!
>>>          Dave
>>>
>>>> On Oct 15, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Charlie V <1cdevill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> None of my business, but I am guessing possibly 1000 other auction
>>>> companies around the country would enjoy free advertising also.
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie V.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://wsmauctioneers.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Raquel Elle Bell <
>>> raquel at wsmauctioneers.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> My name is Raquel and I wanted to let everyone know about an auction
>>> coming
>>>>> up. The items in the auction belonged to the father of my boss "Big
>>> John"
>>>>> Cadzow. Unfortunately Big John passed away and now we are auctioning
>>>>> his
>>>>> collection.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to join this group so that I could get the word out to people
>>> who
>>>>> cared as much about this machinery as Big John did. I do not want to
>>> take
>>>>> up
>>>>> too much time on post so if anyone is interested in the auction please
>>>>> message me off thread for details. My email is
>>> raquel at wsmauctioneers.com
>>>>> Here are a couple things coming up in the auction....
>>>>> 1956 Sheppard Diesel SD4TC Tractor
>>>>> Eimco Power Horse Tractor
>>>>> Ruston & Hornshy 17hp Diesel Mark CR
>>>>> Oliver HG Cletrac Wid Trac Crawler Tractor
>>>>> Allis Chalmers G
>>>>> John Deere 1 1/2hp Hit & Miss Engine
>>>>> Waterloo Boy 4hp Hit & Miss Engine
>>>>>
>>>>> I really want these to go to someone who really appreciates them and
>>>>> not
>>>>> just a collector.
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Raquel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Mike
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:45 PM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure where Dick's son lives that there aren't sprinkler companies
>>> for
>>>>> hundreds of miles, but I can see how renting one might be hard. Here in
>>> the
>>>>> northern US, blowing out sprinkler systems is a big business in the
>>> fall. A
>>>>> lot of small fly by night operations go into the sprinkler blow out
>>>>> business
>>>>> in the fall, and rent the compressors by the month.
>>>>> They can't afford, nor would it be a good idea for them to buy them,
>>> just
>>>>> to
>>>>> sit for 10 months unused. No way could I justify owning one for a once
>>>>> a
>>>>> year use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dick, one thing your son might want to check into is having self
>>> draining
>>>>> valves added to his existing system. I had a system installed in
>>>>> another
>>>>> house that had drains on each line. When the circuit was active, water
>>>>> pressure would keep the drain closed. When the pressure was gone the
>>> drain
>>>>> opened and the circuit was drained. This was in Michigan, and we never
>>> had
>>>>> a
>>>>> problem.  I suspect with the right parts it is a DIY project. Heck of a
>>> lot
>>>>> cheaper than a compressor.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.orbitonline.com/products/Valves/02/16/16/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/2013 6:51 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>> That seems strange to me.  Not doubting it at all but in this little
>>>>>> county of 90,000 where I live I promise you I could rent half a dozen
>>>>>> of them or more tomorrow before
>>>>>> 9 am.  If I ventured out into 3 other adjoining counties I could rent
>>>>>> many more than that.  I know one rental company that we do a lot of
>>>>>> business with about 5 miles from here that probably has 20 or more on
>>>>>> his lot at any given time ranging from 165 cfm to 1100 cfm.  The only
>>>>>> time he is short on them is if one of about 3 industrial plants around
>>>>>> here is having a big maintenance outage.  Then they kind of get in
>>>>>> short supply but there is always one or two available.  In addition to
>>>>>> that privately held rental outfit there is another private one in the
>>>>>> other end of the county
>>>>>> and 3 national/regional outfits within 50 miles.   We've got the
>>>>>> locals
>>>>>> and then Sunbelt and NEFF and NES and on down the road about 100 miles
>>>>>> is Hertz.   Neff and NES have several yards spread around this area.
>>>>>> A lot of Home Depot stores in NC have Sunbelt rental stores inside of
>>>>>> the Home Depot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Ron Cook
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 1:52 PM
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick,
>>>>>>       That is WAY too much lawn.  Interesting about the compressor
>>>>>> rentals.  No wonder my friend would like this one going I am working
>>>>>> on.  Actually it is going, just the speed control is worn so bad it
>>>>>> doesn't work properly, and I have it torn apart so he can't run off
>>>>>> with it.  If it were mine, I would just put a throttle on it and let
>>>>>> the governor run it where I have it set.  He wants it to slow down
>>>>>> when air is not being demanded.  Oh, well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron Cook
>>>>>> Salix, iA
>>>>>>> On 10/14/2013 12:26 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>>>>>> Ron, actually he lives just outside of Chicago.   The 5 acres is his
>>>>> lawn
>>>>>>> size.  I suggested that he just rent one but he said the 2 rental
>>>>>>> places anywhere near him have them rented out for the next 2 months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Ron Cook" <ron at lakeport-1.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:35 AM
>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dick,
>>>>>>>>       He must be involved with those melons and pumpkins not far
>>>>>>>> from you.  I was surprised a few years ago when at the airport, I
>>>>>>>> saw cactus growing in the sand.  I had no idea you had a little
>>>>>>>> piece of AZ
>>>>>>>> there.:-)
>>>>>>>>       I think the towable screw compressors work quite well for that
>>>>>>>> job.  You do have another engine to keep operational besides a
>>>>>>>> tractor, so I can understand wanting a pto powered unit.  I am
>>>>>>>> working on an old compressor in my shop that belongs to a friend of
>>>>>>>> mine.  He wants to get it going to blow out lawn sprinkler systems.
>>>>>>>> The compressor needs to turn at about 1700 rpm for 90 lbs of
>>>>>>>> pressure at some unreal cfm figure.  Maybe 160 cfm?  If I get it
>>>>>>>> going, it will supply air for my blasting cabinet as payment for my
>>>>>>>> work.  Or, maybe I should just tell him it is hopeless and buy it
>>>>>>>> from him?????:-) ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ron Cook
>>>>>>>> Salix, IA
>>>>>>>>
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