[AT] PTO compressors

Tue Oct 15 15:08:35 PDT 2013

They just need to be installed at the low points of each leg. I've used
them. They work and provide the protection. 

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA 

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Dick Day
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:50 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors

Mike, I didn't know there were such things as self-draining valves.
Granted he might have to dig up his whole system (not totally sure how that
all works) to install these, but if it meant not going through this every
year, it would be well worth the cost.

Thank you, I will pass this onto him.

Dick

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
> Not sure where Dick's son lives that there aren't sprinkler companies 
> for hundreds of miles, but I can see how renting one might be hard. 
> Here in the northern US, blowing out sprinkler systems is a big 
> business in the fall. A lot of small fly by night operations go into 
> the sprinkler blow out business in the fall, and rent the compressors by
the month.
> They can't afford, nor would it be a good idea for them to buy them, 
> just to sit for 10 months unused. No way could I justify owning one 
> for a once a year use.
>
> Dick, one thing your son might want to check into is having self 
> draining valves added to his existing system. I had a system installed 
> in another house that had drains on each line. When the circuit was 
> active, water pressure would keep the drain closed. When the pressure 
> was gone the drain opened and the circuit was drained. This was in 
> Michigan, and we never had a problem.  I suspect with the right parts 
> it is a DIY project. Heck of a lot cheaper than a compressor.
>
> http://www.orbitonline.com/products/Valves/02/16/16/
>
>
> Mike M
>
>
> On 10/14/2013 6:51 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>> That seems strange to me.  Not doubting it at all but in this little 
>> county of 90,000 where I live I promise you I could rent half a dozen 
>> of them or more tomorrow before
>> 9 am.  If I ventured out into 3 other adjoining counties I could rent 
>> many more than that.  I know one rental company that we do a lot of 
>> business with about 5 miles from here that probably has 20 or more on 
>> his lot at any given time ranging from 165 cfm to 1100 cfm.  The only 
>> time he is short on them is if one of about 3 industrial plants 
>> around here is having a big maintenance outage.  Then they kind of 
>> get in short supply but there is always one or two available.  In 
>> addition to that privately held rental outfit there is another 
>> private one in the other end of the county
>> and 3 national/regional outfits within 50 miles.   We've got the locals
>> and then Sunbelt and NEFF and NES and on down the road about 100 miles
>> is Hertz.   Neff and NES have several yards spread around this area.
>> A lot of Home Depot stores in NC have Sunbelt rental stores inside of 
>> the Home Depot.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ron Cook
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 1:52 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
>>
>> Dick,
>>       That is WAY too much lawn.  Interesting about the compressor 
>> rentals.  No wonder my friend would like this one going I am working 
>> on.  Actually it is going, just the speed control is worn so bad it 
>> doesn't work properly, and I have it torn apart so he can't run off 
>> with it.  If it were mine, I would just put a throttle on it and let 
>> the governor run it where I have it set.  He wants it to slow down 
>> when air is not being demanded.  Oh, well.
>>
>> Ron Cook
>> Salix, iA
>> On 10/14/2013 12:26 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>> Ron, actually he lives just outside of Chicago.   The 5 acres is his
lawn
>>> size.  I suggested that he just rent one but he said the 2 rental 
>>> places anywhere near him have them rented out for the next 2 months.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Ron Cook" <ron at lakeport-1.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:35 AM
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] PTO compressors
>>>
>>>> Dick,
>>>>       He must be involved with those melons and pumpkins not far 
>>>> from you.  I was surprised a few years ago when at the airport, I 
>>>> saw cactus growing in the sand.  I had no idea you had a little 
>>>> piece of AZ
>>>> there.:-)
>>>>       I think the towable screw compressors work quite well for 
>>>> that job.  You do have another engine to keep operational besides a 
>>>> tractor, so I can understand wanting a pto powered unit.  I am 
>>>> working on an old compressor in my shop that belongs to a friend of 
>>>> mine.  He wants to get it going to blow out lawn sprinkler systems. 
>>>> The compressor needs to turn at about 1700 rpm for 90 lbs of 
>>>> pressure at some unreal cfm figure.  Maybe 160 cfm?  If I get it 
>>>> going, it will supply air for my blasting cabinet as payment for my 
>>>> work.  Or, maybe I should just tell him it is hopeless and buy it 
>>>> from him?????:-) ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Ron Cook
>>>> Salix, IA
>>>>
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