[AT] OT - Question about chain

[Paul Waugh]

Those magic words that are missing in most people today ... "common sense"
!!

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:16 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Question about chain

No it won't and that's why I use chain or non stretching straps but there
are places where the snatch straps come in handy.
You just have to have common sense enough to know how to use them.
In the example Al cited, there's no way the strap is going to snatch the
tractor trailer on top of the smaller, lighter farm tractor.   However if
the tractor trailer was attempting to pull a small farm utility tractor out
of a bad hole something like that could happen.

Charlie

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Offiler
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:50 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Question about chain

A chain won't do THAT.


SO


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:44 AM, charlie hill
<charliehill at embarqmail.com>wrote:

> David the ones that are intended to stretch, the so called snatch 
> straps, deform and go back like a stiff bungee cord.  They do work 
> when you need to pull something and don't have enough pulling force 
> but it comes with some risk and danger.  I talked to a guy a while 
> back that was using one to pull a stump.  He had it hooded to his 4 wd 
> pickup and the other end to the stump.  He'd get a running start and 
> go until the truck quit pulling, hit the brakes and wait, similar to 
> what Al described.  The problem was he was hooked to a stump that was 
> being held by roots.  After a few pulls, as he sat in the truck 
> holding the brake the roots came loose and the stump flew through the 
> air, into the pickup bed and came to rest when it crashed into the 
> back of the cab with significant damage.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Bruce
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:18 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Question about chain
>
> Once that strap has been stretched does it recover or does it deform 
> to the extent to be a one use option?  In some cases a one use version 
> would be fine but for general use that might turn into a problem?
> Not trying to be a smart ass rather trying to learn something.
>
> David
> NW NC
>
> On 11/26/2013 3:41 PM, Len Rugen wrote:
> > When you put tension on a tree with a chain, as soon as it moves a
> little,
> > the chain goes slack.  I have some 2" wide nylon webbing, my tractor 
> > will probably stretch a 50 ft. piece 10 ft or more.  When the tree 
> > is cut, it gets a good 10' tug from the stretch.
> >
> > If you're pulling a tree/log and it catches a stump, you will break 
> > a chain before you can react, nylon will give you enough time to clutch.
> >
> > DO NOT mix nylon and chain, don't use metal hooks on nylon.  I know 
> > some come that way, but take some precaution so if something breaks, 
> > the metal hook doesn't become a nylon powered projectile.
> >
> >
> >
> > Len Rugen
> >
> > rugenl at yahoo.com - May also be used when responding as 
> > rugenl at prairiehome.k12.mo.us
>
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