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[rlgoss at twc.com]

I suspect we're looking at migrating to the Windows 8 from the wrong direction, Charlie.  I've been using it on one of my systems since it first came out (dual boot, and all that jazz) and an automatic upgrade from Microsoft got rid of that hang-up.  I rarely see the desktop in either environment -- it just isn't necessary.  What I see instead is a preferred browser that holds the last several applications that I used in the last several days.  Internet Explorer and Foxfire are two of those "preferred" browsers, but I have gotten away from both of those in favor of Chrome with an occasional use of U-tube.  Much better response and more "think ahead" features than is contained in either IE or Firefox. People are getting used to working with smart phones, androids, and tablets that make use of a touch screen as a normal operating environment.  People migrating to Windows 8.1 are going to want to continue with that sort of interface that makes use of swipes and gestures to get things done rather than fuss around with a mouse  -- wireless or not.  

Larry


---- Charlie V <1cdevill at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Thanks for that, Len.  It sure looks like it might have some benefit.
> 
> Richard,  I am guessing you will not be impressed with Win 8 at all.  Many
> people are not.  I have it on one laptop. My biggest gripe is no Solitaire,
> Free Cell,  or Spider Solitaire.  These can be downloaded from the net, but
> are not the same version as was in Win 7.  Aside from that, it was designed
> for the cell phone / tablet generation with many, many apps.  A very large
> pain and some are always connected and can monitor all of your internet
> activity.  For marketing purposes they say.  Bull dung.  More likely spying.
> 
> I have always dragged shortcuts to my desktop for all of my regularly used
> web sights such as this one.  One mouse click and I am in. I usually have a
> desktop cluttered with shortcuts, but they are a great time and work saver.
> For almost everything else I usually just Google it.  Typing web addresses
> into a browser line has always seemed like a wasted effort.  If one uses
> desktop shortcuts on their desktop, Windows 8 can also be set up to do the
> same and can also have shortcuts for the Control Panel and other internal
> operating  tasks.  One of the apps on the Win 8 main screen brings up a
> pretty much blank desktop. From the many other apps, this desktop can be
> populated with all of your common programs and files so it looks and works
> much like Win 7.  I have done this with my laptop, but not being a computer
> wizzzz, I suspect it may have taken me five hours or more to figure all of
> this out.  After that it is somewhat downhill to populate the desktop.
> 
> Bottom line to me is:  Unless forced to do so, why does a person want to
> dump the money for a new computer that requires a bunch of learning over in
> order to have it function somewhat like your old one did.  I read that many
> companies have run training courses to familiarize their staff with Win 8.
> Now there is a money saver.
> 
> I do note that Windows 7 software packages can be purchased new with proper
> MS license fo under $ 100.  A person could buy a new unit and the separate
> Win 7 package to install in it, but that sure is an extra expense.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Charlie V.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Len Rugen <rugenl at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > You don't have to use the tough features and it will work without it.   I
> > have it on my older laptop to checkout, we are waiting for 8.1 at work.   I
> > found an add-on that makes 8.0 tolerable - http://www.classicshell.net/
> >
> > Len Rugen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, November 9, 2013 4:04 PM, Richard Fink Sr <
> > rfinksr at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi need some feed back on computers. My computer with win XP has died was
> > looking at a new HP with win 8. Has any one run this and what are your
> > thoughts. I am old school love win XP and hate change have been told it is
> > all touch and so on takes special screen or monitor????????????????
> > R Fink
> > PA
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